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Tabris · Post by **Tabris** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:01 pm

What do you feel is the best name to represent the current phase that our society is taking regarding art?

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:06 pm

Utilitarian.

I don't know if I'm sure on that...but it sounds smart...hehe.

JaNell · Post by **JaNell** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 1:21 am

Holiday Inn.

Lost Traveler · Post by **Lost Traveler** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 10:38 am

Sonicgoo · Post by **Sonicgoo** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:45 pm

Such an upbeat crowd lol... I'm a bit unsure if you are talking about a specefic person or movement.

My take on it this hot hungover afternoon is the art of Matthew Barney, as stated by aural fixation in another post.

http://www.guggenheim.org/barney/cremaster_1/index.html

I feel that work dealing with the Body and it's different transformations, passing from life to death and all of the beauty and gore inbetween, is the current theme of artist in the forefront. Figurative work ior body modification is nothing new, However as we are moving into an age of body modification technology it would only make sense to make art about it.

examples would include Matthew Barney, Cindy Sherman, Joel Peter Witkin, and in my book however on the fringes Dave Mckean

What other artist hmmm?.

JaNell · Post by **JaNell** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:40 pm

I met Dave McKean last year at World Fantasy. Friendly guy, though very shy, and he hung around the lobby playing piano for us from time to time during the weekend. If I had the server space for it I'd post some pics of him doing just that...
One of my pictures from WFC that's in the January 2003 Locus is of him and Neil Gaiman at the Punch & Judy Show there, holding a copy of Mr. Punch.

Part of the programming was an overview of his work - including his films. OMG. I had to leave the room a few times because of overload. He's the sort of artist that sets your own creative wheels burning rubber down the sidewalk and I can't give higher praise than that.

:jazilla:

I want to be Dave McKean when I grow up. :jazilla:

Sonicgoo · Post by **Sonicgoo** » Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:01 pm

I totaly dig Dave Mckean's work would love to see one of his films didn't even know he worked on films. Guess it makes sense though, I would imageine he's done some music video's then.

I'm a fan of the comic called "THE DREAMING, and that's how I know his work the best.

JaNell · Post by **JaNell** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 5:04 pm

He ran the Buckethead video at WFC.

The movie I liked most was The Week Before, a short about God's week before creation, and his neighbor, Satan. That's how I took it anyway. Pretty damn funny in any case.

AuralFixation · Post by **AuralFixation** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:37 am

conceptualism has dominated the art scene for the past decade or so but i think it is in decline and we are comming into in a post conceptualist era. alot of work currently has much to do with symmiotics <-that is soo not how that is spelled) and I think that it will be a dominating force behind contemporary art. Creamaster used symiotic theory to an amazing degree. pt 3 is an instantce that sticks out in my mind the most as an example of this, with the symbols for the Masons being used to illustrate the condition of both high and low classes. the "cremmaster shape" (anyone who saw it knows what im talking about) is another brilliant use of reptitive symmiotics. damion hurst, dino and jake chapman allong with the other Sinsation artists comming out of UK also employ it in their work but i dont think it has yet reached its full potiential. most of them only use it as an impliment of shock i think well see artists subtaly manipulating the thought processes of the veiwer in even more interesting ways in the comming decade......................

..........wow reading back over all that dribble.....i sound like a tool....dont read it, aparently im subconciously preping myself for school to start.....smegma

JaNell · Post by **JaNell** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:01 am

AuralFixation wrote:conceptualism has dominated the art scene for the past decade or so but i think it is in decline and we are comming into in a post conceptualist era. alot of work currently has much to do with symmiotics <-that is soo not how that is spelled) and I think that it will be a dominating force behind contemporary art. Creamaster used symiotic theory to an amazing degree. pt 3 is an instantce that sticks out in my mind the most as an example of this, with the symbols for the Masons being used to illustrate the condition of both high and low classes. the "cremmaster shape" (anyone who saw it knows what im talking about) is another brilliant use of reptitive symmiotics. damion hurst, dino and jake chapman allong with the other Sinsation artists comming out of UK also employ it in their work but i dont think it has yet reached its full potiential. most of them only use it as an impliment of shock i think well see artists subtaly manipulating the thought processes of the veiwer in even more interesting ways in the comming decade......................

..........wow reading back over all that dribble.....i sound like a tool....dont read it, aparently im subconciously preping myself for school to start.....smegma

Don't worry about it, I can look up all those terms and maybe learn something...

Seraph Antaine · Post by **Seraph Antaine** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:51 pm

Don't know. Don't care. I have always ignored trends. I do what sings to me. If that leaves me out of step, so be it. Amen.

JaNell · Post by **JaNell** » Fri Aug 22, 2003 6:11 pm

Seraph Antaine wrote:Don't know. Don't care. I have always ignored trends. I do what sings to me. If that leaves me out of step, so be it. Amen.

Yeah, I'm pretty ignorant of all the terms and stuff. I think I •might• be able to identify "Abstract" and "Realism". I just play untiil I get something I really like, myself.

As for other people's work, it's either interesting, or not. The best stuff makes me itch to go home and work on something.

Sonicgoo · Post by **Sonicgoo** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 2:03 am

I looked it up

se·mi·ot·ics also se·mei·ot·ics ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sm-tks, sm-, sm-)
n. (used with a sing. verb)
The theory and study of signs and symbols, especially as elements of language or other systems of communication, and comprising semantics, syntactics, and pragmatics.

a website here on the subject

http://www.semioticon.com/

http://www.arthist.lu.se/kultsem/sonesson/pict_sem_1.html
Hmm my first thoughts are that this is actually what art is, the communication that transcends language, also seems to be an extention of symbolism in a post modern context.