I've completely re-written my site, but I need some groups/artists before I can release it. To see what I mean, go the URL listed below and click on browse.
http://www.cybergrunge.com/test
Not very impressive without the tunes to back it up is it?. Anyway, wanted to know what you guys thought about the functionality, layout, design, etc. Also if anyone is interested, sign up, it's free.
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gothic_spleen
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Just curious but why are you bothering with frames if you are using CSS? Why not do the whole thing CSS and XML? It seems to me that for this kind of data intensive site it would be alot easier if you were useing some sort of databse drivem site management system. That way you can make changes globally from one document instead of writing and re-writing html all the time.
I highly recomend html.net's CSS tutorials to get you up to speed with CSS.
Once you get through those tutorials, you should be able to do pretty much anything you want to in less time and with a better visual impact. Also, you might want to think about working on your color scheme.
I highly recomend html.net's CSS tutorials to get you up to speed with CSS.
Once you get through those tutorials, you should be able to do pretty much anything you want to in less time and with a better visual impact. Also, you might want to think about working on your color scheme.
arkady pretty much covered my opinion here, though as always i have a few additions / suggestions.
good question. another good question: is there a point to using embedded stylesheets? which hits upon something already commented on below: site management. putting your css into a file and using a <link> tag means that when you want to make a change, or fix a bug, the change happens everywhere.
less wear and tear on the fingers, and it makes your total page weight less, since most browsers will cache the css file after the first load.
not to mention, if the backend were database driven, adding nifty widgets such as rss feeds and the like (re: view latest additions from a live bookmark, etc) would be easy.
and since you appear to be running that on a linux server, using apache... i'd definitely suggest looking into some kind of sql-ish solution.
that's a good one, as is the CSS tutorial from w3schools - though i'm more fond of their reference guides than anything else.
alternate style sheets are the bomb diggity. again on the css bandwagon. lol
example:
Arkady wrote:Just curious but why are you bothering with frames if you are using CSS? Why not do the whole thing CSS and XML?
good question. another good question: is there a point to using embedded stylesheets? which hits upon something already commented on below: site management. putting your css into a file and using a <link> tag means that when you want to make a change, or fix a bug, the change happens everywhere.
less wear and tear on the fingers, and it makes your total page weight less, since most browsers will cache the css file after the first load.
It seems to me that for this kind of data intensive site it would be alot easier if you were useing some sort of databse drivem site management system. That way you can make changes globally from one document instead of writing and re-writing html all the time.
not to mention, if the backend were database driven, adding nifty widgets such as rss feeds and the like (re: view latest additions from a live bookmark, etc) would be easy.
and since you appear to be running that on a linux server, using apache... i'd definitely suggest looking into some kind of sql-ish solution.
I highly recomend html.net's CSS tutorials to get you up to speed with CSS.
that's a good one, as is the CSS tutorial from w3schools - though i'm more fond of their reference guides than anything else.
Once you get through those tutorials, you should be able to do pretty much anything you want to in less time and with a better visual impact. Also, you might want to think about working on your color scheme.
alternate style sheets are the bomb diggity. again on the css bandwagon. lol
example:
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<link rel="stylesheet" href="http://yoursite.com/css/" type="text/css" title="default" />
<link rel="alternate stylesheet" href="http://yoursite.com/css/alt.css" type="text/css" title="something different" />
<link rel="alternate stylesheet" href="http://yoursite.com/css/goatse_background.css" type="text/css" title="my eyes!" />If carpenters made buildings the way programmers make programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy all of civilization. Anonymous
Arkady wrote:Just curious but why are you bothering with frames if you are using CSS? Why not do the whole thing CSS and XML? It seems to me that for this kind of data intensive site it would be alot easier if you were useing some sort of databse drivem site management system. That way you can make changes globally from one document instead of writing and re-writing html all the time.
I highly recomend html.net's CSS tutorials to get you up to speed with CSS.
Once you get through those tutorials, you should be able to do pretty much anything you want to in less time and with a better visual impact. Also, you might want to think about working on your color scheme.
It is database driven BTW. It's written with MySQL and PHP.
Bigun wrote:BTW, going from making pages with tables and centers to css is a BITCH!
it'll be a lot easier once you get the hang of it. trust me on this.
between css and javascript (ala dhtml) you can do pretty much anything you please with the layout. and since you're using a lamp (linux apache mysql php) combination, you have oodles of choices of how to go about things.
if you need help with any details, i'll be on IM for some time tonight.
If carpenters made buildings the way programmers make programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy all of civilization. Anonymous
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the best thing to learn CSS with is to get a book or a website and code random test pages till you got it nailed
everytime i relearn it thats what i do.
everytime i relearn it thats what i do.
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Drinking makes you the same asshole your father was.
http://www.knoxnihilism.com/forum - site admin.
Prayer, Praise, Profit.
another thing that might help get into the swing is greasemonkey.
after fucking around with how to fix / improve other people's sites, improving your own is a breeze. lol
after fucking around with how to fix / improve other people's sites, improving your own is a breeze. lol
If carpenters made buildings the way programmers make programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy all of civilization. Anonymous
junkie christ wrote:the best thing to learn CSS with is to get a book or a website and code random test pages till you got it nailed
everytime i relearn it thats what i do.
I took your advice, the main page now mainly consists of CSS, cept' for the table data.
But I'm struggling with style here... any suggestions with colors and/or patterns to use?
Bigun wrote:junkie christ wrote:the best thing to learn CSS with is to get a book or a website and code random test pages till you got it nailed
everytime i relearn it thats what i do.
I took your advice, the main page now mainly consists of CSS, cept' for the table data.
But I'm struggling with style here... any suggestions with colors and/or patterns to use?
i like the tabs and the header.
Try here for some color help. If you dont like that one, do a google search on "web design color wheel" and i am sure you'll come up with something usefull.
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