darkdahla wrote:I would be old skool.

Anytime you use a guitar you are using riffs blues already created.

darkdahla wrote:I would be old skool.

Michael_Xi wrote:"Good Stuff...Gimme Some of that Goood Stuff..."
(Quoting the B-52's)
Look out next Sanctus......

iblis wrote:And why would you listen to music that you hate?

iblis wrote:

darkdahla wrote:I would be old skool.

You should be very wary about the fine line between "old school" and simply "outdated".

vertigo25 wrote:

Jack wrote:Nothing is more frustrating than watching a thread like this disintegrate into people saying "Wow, this is boring" or "Ho hum". It really showcases where the apathy is.

Yes, yes it does. Shameful, shameful behavior.

iblis wrote:

darkdahla wrote:And Caustic....Limp Biskit does not play fucking goth music.

If Spam here were to compose a melody or mix that fit into the "Gothic" genre, it would be considered "Gothic", even though he most certainly is not.

If you spray perfume on shit it still smells like shit. Shit is Shit realize that and your life will be much better.

That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet..

Again, perhaps you should look past your blind dislike for an artist and actually pay attention to the music that's being described. I don't care if a song is performed by someone previously known for hip-hop, goth, darkwave, new age, alternative, country, or fucking polka, if they put out a tune that fits the mood, there should be nothing wrong with playing it during a "goth night".

MahoganyDawn wrote:

Jack wrote:

MahoganyDawn wrote:The music played at Sanctus is just as diverse as the people who attend it.

Well, almost.

Hehehe yeah.. we are a bit widespread. ;o)

vertigo25 wrote:

darkdahla wrote:You know here is a simple and usable suggestion. Make a new Forum specifically for new music request. Have people put up songs they'd like to hear at the club and people can go download the song and put their opinion of the song on the forum. This will surely appease the masses and give the dj's an even better understanding of what people want to listen to at the club.


There is nothing wrong with this idea and it would require minimal effort on the part of all involved.

And from where do you propose people download the music?

iblis wrote:

darkdahla wrote:And Caustic....Limp Biskit does not play fucking goth music.

If Spam here were to compose a melody or mix that fit into the "Gothic" genre, it would be considered "Gothic", even though he most certainly is not.

If you spray perfume on shit it still smells like shit. Shit is Shit realize that and your life will be much better.

That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet..

Again, perhaps you should look past your blind dislike for an artist and actually pay attention to the music that's being described. I don't care if a song is performed by someone previously known for hip-hop, goth, darkwave, new age, alternative, country, or fucking polka, if they put out a tune that fits the mood, there should be nothing wrong with playing it during a "goth night".

X wrote:See the point of making requests, helps but not really...i see 3908239048 different things requested every month, and 9 times out of 10 the only stuff requested that gets played is the stuff people shouldn't be requesting anyway, cus it gets played anyway.

Now, where i will say that promoting and booking and all that jazz is a difficult job, it almost ALWAYS HAS to be about the love, cus there ain't no heavy money making going on. I don't think Karla meant she wants to live off of jasons sancti-cash....she was making a point of....hey there isn't heavy money making going on here. And there is NOT.

I totally agree with the fact that different stuff should get played....i mean, fuck, if its someone NOTICABLE, people aren't going to care.....does anyone think that people will ONLY dance to a Prince song, if its Erotic City, Lets Go Crazy, or Little Red Corvette??....no you hear that grainy high pitch voice and say...ahh this is prince, i'm fucking dancing.....that will pretty much go into a simple equation of A-B= good......not A+A=good.

I also feel like my statement of "don't like don't go" was somewhat taken out of context......I truthfully don't think that even if there was no Sanctus, this community would die, i mean....how many non official KG deals are there?? at least 2 a week.....but heres exactly what i mean.......

This argument comes up every 2 months....now its said "request, talk to the djs blah blah blah" but let's face it, that doesn't work, cus if it did, then, well...this argument wouldn't be here every other month. If you don't go for a month or two, they're gonna say, oh shit, maybe we should change this up.

Now heres my bitch with everyone complaining.....everyone is always bitching about the godamn safety dance....if you hate it why do you dance to it......99 red balloons, again.....whatever else??? 3rd verse, same as the first. NOW I KNOW, everyone is gonna say "but i don't" and a fraction of you are correct, but then the other 2/3 's of you are timewarp whores. Not a bad thing. I'm just saying, if you want change, and its a good enough majority of you guys that want it....(and usually it is...i mean fuck this post is 4 pages right now) then don't preach to the choir, and then go out and sin all night long.

does all of that make any better sense??

in addition i would just like to say.....*80s night tonight @ iveys*

god i am a whore

MahoganyDawn wrote:

iblis wrote:

darkdahla wrote:And Caustic....Limp Biskit does not play fucking goth music.

If Spam here were to compose a melody or mix that fit into the "Gothic" genre, it would be considered "Gothic", even though he most certainly is not.

If you spray perfume on shit it still smells like shit. Shit is Shit realize that and your life will be much better.

That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet..

Again, perhaps you should look past your blind dislike for an artist and actually pay attention to the music that's being described. I don't care if a song is performed by someone previously known for hip-hop, goth, darkwave, new age, alternative, country, or fucking polka, if they put out a tune that fits the mood, there should be nothing wrong with playing it during a "goth night".

Yeah! What he said!

Arkady wrote:The reason I have not to this point participated in this conversation is that I have not had time for a topic that has been covered at least 4 times in the past 2 years. IMO the topic is tired but I suppose it's necessary. Without criticism, things would fall apart.

Look, we can't please all of you all of the time. We do what we can when we can.. If you have a song that you really like and we don't seem to have been exposed to it, bring it and let one of us give it a listen. If we like it and it's right for a club, it will get played. As a matter of fact, that very thing happened at the beginning of my set at Sanctus thanks to a friend of Mike's.

One other thing. Those of you that are bitching that we are collecting money at the door to support ourselves, KnoxGothic, and the community, I would let you know that you can keep bitching about it but at the end of the day, it's not going to change. This is what we do and I am proud to be a part of it.

Nexxus23 wrote:< bitch >



It's a dance night. Get over yourselves and have a good time. If "Safety Dance" gets your knickers in that bad of a twist, go home.

< /bitch >

Caustic wrote:

darkdahla wrote:Limp Biskit does not play fucking goth music.

Surprise! Neither do half the artists played at Sanctus. And you know what?

Fuck. Goth. No, really. Plain and simple. And, for the most part, fuck a lot of industrial, too. In fact, I say fuck to most music because most of it's shit. I entirely agree.

But that by no means negates that the Limp Bizkit song on the Matrix Reloaded soundtrack is far more appropriate for Sanctus than George Michael or Safety Dance in terms of atmosphere.

If you think that they are goth because they're on that soundtrack then perhaps you should watch the movie for all the raver city Zion crap.

Let's get this straight: they're not Goth until they're on a Crow soundtrack. And that is by no means a rave in the film -- there aren't enough glowsticks after the machines took over. Duh.

Have people put up songs they'd like to hear at the club and people can go download the song and put their opinion of the song on the forum.

There is nothing wrong with this idea and it would require minimal effort on the part of all involved.

Yeah, man! Nothing wrong with pirating music! Fuck you music! You're my bitch!

So your saying that it would be OK to play hiphop songs on "Goth Night".

Who cares what Iblis thinks; he's not a DJ. Me? I was. And, since you apparently don't know, I did play hip-hop. And rap. And, surprise of all surprises, Garth Brooks. And people, if not many, danced to all of it.

But even more importantly, customers who didn't dance would show up early for my sets, and some people would leave when I was done. No shit.

The point? People respect quality music, whomever's making it, whether it's Limp Bizkit, Culture Kultur, or Brian Boitano. And no amount of your hand-stapled bitching's going to make a lick of difference about it.

Buttercup wrote:

darkdahla wrote:
Really? So your saying that it would be OK to play hiphop songs on "Goth Night". I know of several hiphop songs that have a dark mood to them.

Well, I once requested some Outkast and it did get played by Arkady, right before we sang happy birthday to KG for its first birthday. And many people enjoyed it.

Honestly, I practically lived at Lava, have missed maybe 2 sancti and have supported weekly nights for a long time...I've been involved with these people since before KG was a forum, and if all I ever heard was "goth music" I'd probably NEVER go out. I don't like most "modern goth" music.


Hmm..Sanctus and KG are almost 2 years old...they must be doing something right.

Michael, you are an excellent dj and I always enjoy your sets, but I still would rather people stay home than come on here and bitch. Its not like you dj's haven't been hearing the same old same old complaining for the past 2 years.... (and this isn't personal towards balance and morellademone...I love you guys).


Well, I'm gonna go to events and sanctus when I feel like it, not for the music, the dancing or the booze, but because I like to be around my friends, and thats why I support KG and Sanctus.

And I know the KGB is really raking in the dough...I mean, Boo's and Mike's daughter's college educations are already paid for, all the dj's drive mercedes and they and their wives/girlfriends have all quit their day jobs.

iblis wrote:

darkdahla wrote:

iblis wrote:Again, perhaps you should look past your blind dislike for an artist and actually pay attention to the music that's being described. I don't care if a song is performed by someone previously known for hip-hop, goth, darkwave, new age, alternative, country, or fucking polka, if they put out a tune that fits the mood, there should be nothing wrong with playing it during a "goth night".

Really? So your saying that it would be OK to play hiphop songs on "Goth Night".

No, because if it were hip-hop, then it wouldn't sound like "gothic music". I'm saying that if it sounds like "Goth", then it's "Goth". Period. It's not a very complicated concept to grasp.

Unless, of course, you're looking for some spiritual definition from the music which you listen to, in which case you'd better go listen to The Beatles. After all, look what they did for Charlie.

I know of several hiphop songs that have a dark mood to them. I wonder if those would get played or not. Kelis is a good example or DJ spooky. You may say nothing would be wrong with it but try it and see what the reaction will be.

If it's a good tune, I'd say people would love it. If it's the typical be-bopping shit you hear everyday, attendees would likely mob the DJ who unleashed the song to begin with..

Any genre of music can have some artist playing songs that have a dark mood to it. By just playing any artist, you let people think"hey If he played Garth Brooks maybe he'll play Billy Ray Cyrus." Like we need that shit.

Again, if the music sounds "gothic" ... it's "gothic", whether it's from Hated Musician "A", or it's coming from a tuba that's shoved up someone's ass.

Oh and I listen to all types of music(even stuff I hate except country).

And why would you listen to music that you hate?

So I am far from blind. As for limp biskit, they still suck and wesley was the only Non-Commercial person in that band. The rest are money grubbing whores. And i like songs with originality to them and I doubt Limp Biskit's Matrix song is original.

They could go out and drop agent orange on orphanages for all I care, if they make a solid track, I'll listen to it. The majority of what Limp Bizkit produces, I dislike. However, the same can be said for any number of bands. (Orgy, Peter Murphy, Electric HellFire Club, and Skinny Puppy all come to mind.)

Furthermore, I find it hilarious when people whine and complain about a song being "original". When a musician hears a song, a riff, or a bar that he or she likes, at the very least they're going to store that information in their head, and be somewhat influenced by that. That's how music evolves.

You want original? You'll have to go a lot farther back in your musical collection to find true originality in music. Like, maybe start with some Lavern Baker and work your way back from there.

Caustic wrote:

Buttercup wrote:Darn, why are things so entertaining when we all argue?

Because I bring up Brian Boitano.

iblis wrote:

darkdahla wrote:I would be old skool.

You should be very wary about the fine line between "old school" and simply "outdated".

Anytime you use a guitar you are using riffs blues already created.

Not quite. There's plenty of (in my opinion, badass) spanish / mexican fingering technique used today that had abso-fucking-lutely no blues influence at all. But the majority of music today does owe tribute to the blues; I'll definitely concede to that point.

MahoganyDawn wrote:I had a nice long post in mind... however... the subject has been run into the ground. I'm going to refer back to my previous posts on this subject as I feel they say it all. Especially the one quoted from the other unrelated thread.

Thankyou.
Have a nice day.

Buttercup wrote:

darkdahla wrote:I would be old skool.

Define that.


I'm just curious as to your definition.

The Stormstress wrote:OMMFG... Bitch much?!?!

Buttercup wrote:Hey, how about a different guest dj everytime?


Maybe balance or zeo would make people happier.

darkdahla wrote:Janell, I wouldn't call Led Zeppelin status quo. Would you?

The majority here does not. Everyone who goes out on a regular basis anymore wants to relive the last episode.