Mercurygriffin wrote: I guess what it all comes down to is when I arrive at the clubs from now I will have to settle for being a pasty faced, depression riddled, all black wearing, bigot unto my self. Thanks for giving me a new direction.

Come on Merc, don't get down man, keep doing your thing. Whatever makes you happy is ultimately what is best for you, right? That goes for everyone, but especially the young people. Be wild while you can. The day may come when you just no longer have the energy to give a shit.

I'm rapidly approaching 40 and quickly turning into my dad. If I'm uncomfortable with the way people dress, that is my problem, not theirs.

Mercurygriffin wrote:Russo- And all this time I thouhgt you to be open minded and once agian, cool hair.

Whoa whoa whoa. I was actually DEFENDING you. I was trying to express that everyone on this forum has the right to feel a certain way about music and although we can express our opinions, we shouldn't take this debate so seriously. Just because I don't like ICP doesn't mean I'm not open-minded. That means I have PREFERENCES.

Trust me. I've tried and tried to get into ICP. I dated a Juggalo for 2 years! My best friend was one! And you know what? I accepted them for who they were. Sure, I made snarky comments about their music, but who doesn't when they hear something they don't like?

But for God's sake people, WE'RE ARGUING ON A TENNESEE GOTHIC FORUM. ABOUT CLOWNS. WHO RAP. Why are we taking this so damn seriously? We're all friends here. I'm pretty sure we all know no one in this forum HATES all of the Juggallos they've met. I just couldn't imagine anyone hating Merc. You so sweet


So, in conclusion, I post this pic:



Now let's forget our troubles with a big bowl of strawberry ice cream!

And you thought ICP wasnt goth.......why one is wear just as much white/black make up as the other.

Celestial Dung wrote:Thy Unveiling
By ICP4
<snip>

Truth is we follow GOD, we`ve always been behind him, The Dark Carnival is GOD and may all Juggalos find him!

So which GOD are they referring to?!

Celestial Dung wrote:<snip>

Suck My Nuts! Bitch, Fuck You!
Suck My Nuts! Bitch, Fuck You!

Um, yeah.

Sorry, Merc, I love ya, but dude! Chill!

The more lyrics I read, the creepier/working-too-hard-to-be-mysterious-and-shocking they get. Plus, why are females "juggolettes"? I always hate sexist shit like that. "-ette" anything is a diminutive; adding it to a word means "less than" or "little".

Anywho, enjoy 'em, but be accepting enough to allow us NOT to if that's the case. I mean, I like some stuff that's probably crap, but that's OK, I know it's crap but I like it so who cares?

~ goes off singing "Safety Dance" ~

If I could have one wish right now, it would be for this thread to DIE. It is pointless at this point.

The juggalos will still listen to ICP
The goths will still listen to whatever they like.

You will either be accepting of everyone or you won't.

You will either dance to it when it is played or you will go get a drink.

Nuff said.

Mistress Eve(L) wrote:And you thought ICP wasnt goth.......why one is wear just as much white/black make up as the other.

Y'all could just go retro and join the KISS Army. They're not Goth, either.

hey now lets not go dragging KISS into this cause KISS in there prime was head and shoulders above anything ICP ever did

O.K. you guys, this is all a little immature. Don't you have jobs or something like masturbation to do with your free time? Get a life. Would you want someone telling you what to do with your free time? I love juggalos! I would be one, but I'm not cool enough. Say what you want of ICP. Just remember, they make millions of dollars and made a small empire of people called juggalos and juggalettes. So, when was the last time you did that? Go on to your $200 a week job and get off work to come here to bitch about people that don't care what you say.

Loosers

I like KISS.
I even have the action figures.





KISS is retro?????...........hey could someone pass me my walker.?

Mistress Eve(L) wrote:And you thought ICP wasnt goth.......why one is wear just as much white/black make up as the other.

I wouldn't consider either of those goth...lol.

And Russo, I knew it was just a matter of time before someone posted that picture. If I had a dime for everytime that gets slapped on a thread in which people debate...lol.

Koolaid? Faygo?



I see the resemblance



Ok Im claiming Tang as my cult's ghetto death juice before anyone else has a chance to use it.

Mistress Eve(L) wrote:Koolaid? Faygo?



I see the resemblance



Ok Im claiming Tang as my cult's ghetto death juice before anyone else has a chance to use it.

Just remember, they make millions of dollars and made a small empire of people called juggalos and juggalettes. So, when was the last time you did that? Go on to your $200 a week job and get off work to come here to bitch about people that don't care what you say.

wow........

Just remember, they make millions of dollars and made a small empire of people called juggalos and juggalettes.

and....

So, when was the last time you did that?

sans the millions of dollars and dumb names
i'm building an empire every day
by my own terms
by my own integrity
by my honesty

Go on to your $200 a week job and get off work to come here to bitch about people that don't care what you say.

it's obvious that money rules your life
and that's very sad

I'd just like to point out that the issue really shouldn't be wether ICP is "goth or not" because while yes, arguing is retarded, arguing about what is goth is even more retarded. Because for some reason thousands of people over two decades can all consider themselves gothic, but never have and never will decide why that is so. So give it up.

And for whoever was saying they couldn't see any positive messages in ICP's music (can't find the quote I was gonna use) this song is from the CD I mentioned earlier, Hell's Pit:

"Burning Up"

This bitch Rachel fucked on her boyfriend in her boyfriend's bed
and crazy Carlos smacked his baby mamma off in the head
and Johnathon beat his son like his dady beat him
but swore he'd never do nobody like his daddy did him
and then Sandra used her pussy hole to get to the top
and Baby D he shot somebody it went bad from the drop
and then Diane worked at a hospital took care of old souls
she was abusive her after life sees no gold roads
and Mr. Richards was a richy fella born with every penny
everyone around him hungry but he never gave them any
and Steven was a buisnessman educated citizen
at the top pornography of children on his lap top

Take your spot and hang on cuz its crowded in hell
you in the belly of the beast now it was heaven in jail
and dont try to make no friends cuz nobody got no tounges
and if the witch looks your way somehow it crushes your lungs

Playa playa was a boss man callin out shots until he caught one and everything stops the floor drops
As he's screamin and fallin we see how pointless was the ballin when eternity is callin
agony will be appauling

Dont cry for the dead cuz they cry for you
because we laugh about an aftermath but they know how true
And listen aint no-fuckin-body gettin it worse than you and me
and aint nobody gettin it worse
But you and me and we will see

A pteradactyl swoop through the caverns of hell
and grab two unfortunates off to the ogre's cell
and aint no gaurds playin cards and aint no uniforms needed
you the only one around butt naked bloody and bleedin
With 7 demons in your ear got you believing you're heathen
talk you into pullin out your own instestines to get
even you were born with the shine but you lost it down the line
you fuck life up and you cant rewind

[chorus]
Fuck what you tellin me
(we burnin up)
the witch keeps sellin me
(we burnin up)
since we burn em up
(they keep turnin up)
and we turn corrupt
(till we burning lovely)

Judge shaw was a judge snake holes were his eyes
there go another judge another judge somebody despise
there goes so many judges the judges in hell
so many fuckin judges in hell they bludgen em well

Fat Pat like his daddy was a biggit pullin duty
he could tell it to them gargoyles fuckin on his booty
And Sharla liked money but mistook it for love a
nd when the witch's wings press she give him head and look above

Black sundays armeggedon maggots and rape
Hell's Pit got some fire for you faggots with hate
Eddie Bearl hit his wife and got a tooth in his knuckle
later on he lost his life in a scuffle now he in trouble

You was a rebel your nobody no more
To the devil on the double you go
Aint no level to the trouble you know
and eternity goes and eternity goes

[chorus]

(end)

Now tell me that has no positive message. And yes, some songs are simply for entertainment, because ICP are entertainers, not preachers.

I'm sorry, that is one of the stooopidest, worst attempts at being "deep" or prophetic or whatever that I've ever seen in my life.

I'm sorry, that is one of the stooopidest, worst attempts at being "deep" or prophetic or whatever that I've ever seen in my life.

LOL!!!!!

Russo wrote:I was trying to express that everyone on this forum has the right to feel a certain way about music and although we can express our opinions, we shouldn't take this debate so seriously. Just because I don't like ICP doesn't mean I'm not open-minded. That means I have PREFERENCES.

I think you will find that, while you and I may understand this notion, 99.9% of internet message board users do not comprehend it. Exhibit A: The thread about Lexx in the Cinema forum of The Forum That Shall Knot be Named.

A pteradactyl swoop through the caverns of hell
and grab two unfortunates off to the ogre's cell
and aint no gaurds playin cards and aint no uniforms needed
you the only one around butt naked bloody and bleedin
With 7 demons in your ear got you believing you're heathen
talk you into pullin out your own instestines to get
even you were born with the shine but you lost it down the line

That sounds like a Rush song!

Jack wrote:

A pteradactyl swoop through the caverns of hell
and grab two unfortunates off to the ogre's cell
and aint no gaurds playin cards and aint no uniforms needed
you the only one around butt naked bloody and bleedin
With 7 demons in your ear got you believing you're heathen
talk you into pullin out your own instestines to get
even you were born with the shine but you lost it down the line

That sounds like a Rush song!

i dont know the song that was posted but now i am singing these lyrics to the tune of "freewill"

tat2jay wrote:i dont know the song that was posted but now i am singing these lyrics to the tune of "freewill"

And this is why I love ya, Jay. Haha.