torch_32 wrote:

iblis wrote:

torch_32 wrote:I am studying Hebrew and Judaism in order to convert. I take classes at the conservative shul here in Knoxville, and I'm doing a lot of reading on my own.

Two questions: How much (if anything) do they charge for the Hebrew classes, and do you have to be converting to anything to take them?

Hebrew language classes are free (I'm pretty sure). You just have to buy the workbook. I would recommend calling Temple Beth El for info; they're more likely to offer something to the non-Jew who's not interested in converting. I have not taken a formal Hebrew class through either synagogue here in town (I use my own workbooks and work at my own pace), but Yochanan has (http://www.xanga.com/yochanon), so you may want to contact him first. The 4-month class on Judaism (which I'm in) is around $80. Starts every January and goes through April.

Because Yochanan (John) was my boyfriend at the time that he started taking the classes, I can confirm that yes, he only paid for the price of books and not the Hebrew class. I know this because I had contemplated learning as well. The Hebrew classes he took, originally started out at the synagogue but it changed and he was going to the teachers house to learn in the end with a group of people.

iblis wrote:

torch_32 wrote:I am studying Hebrew and Judaism in order to convert. I take classes at the conservative shul here in Knoxville, and I'm doing a lot of reading on my own.

Two questions: How much (if anything) do they charge for the Hebrew classes, and do you have to be converting to anything to take them?

Also... i don't know you so i have no clue if this applies to you or anyone else that might be interested, but thought that it might since there are alot of UT students on here.... If you are interested in learning but not converting, UT offers classes in both Hebrew and Judaic Studies that are very good. They were among my favorite classes taken as an under-grad. Obviously, if you're not already a student that option would be pricey, but if you happen to be a full time student and already paying the maximum amount, it wouldn't cost you any more than what you're already paying.

Buttercup wrote:I just got back from the movie, and I think its up there with that Romeo and Juliet remake with Leonardo DiCaprio as one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I guess maybe I thought it would be up there with Braveheart or would at least have lots of good cinematography, but apart from a couple scenes...nope. Bleh.

I bought that film a few months ago as part of my Shakespeare collection. I remembered not liking it when I first saw it, but thought I'd give it another shot, and I needed a version of Romeo and Juliet...Nope, as bad as I remembered it.

I was hoping for good things from the cinematography as I pictured this as more of a movie that just sort of washes over you, enveloping you in scenery and language...Guess not. I had really planned on seeing this in the theatre, but I don't think I can justify the cost based on what I have heard. I'll just have to catch this one as a rental. Also, it sounds as though this movie inspired the kind of reaction in Buttercup that the worst film EVER (IMHO), Forest Gump, inspired in me - disgust. If a movie pushes its message on you SO STRONGLY that you feel the urge to get up and leave, it may be a bit...skewed.

Going to see a movie is a pricey decision. I want to see one that I will enjoy, not one that will anger me. That being said, I do like a film that promotes thinking and conversation, and it seems like The Passion of The Christ has done that admirably.

howed this end up here? only every 5th post is about the movie.

Lost Traveler wrote:howed this end up here? only every 5th post is about the movie.

Don't rock the boat man!!! I can't remember WHEN we had this much discussion in the Film Form last. And the thread was initially about a movie, but after weighing in at 8 pages, there are bound to be some tangents.

Hmm so if you dont ilke the book you probably wont like the movie........


Wonder if there will be a special edition DVD with an alternate ending.

LMAO! I can see it now...and blooper reels! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Wow, did any of you hear about the actor playing Christ and the assistant producer getting struck by lightening (for the second time) while filming this??

I think its kinda funny...lol.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3209223.stm

Mistress Eve(L) wrote:Hmm so if you dont ilke the book you probably wont like the movie...

Actually, probably not. I'm not saying THIS movie is bad - I have not seen it, so how could I? I'm just saying that it is no longer a contender for "Movie I Most Want To Pay $7 Bucks to See." Sadly, that nomination may have gone to Club Dread.

The wierd thing to me is how often movies are screwed up versions of books you DO like. Example: John Irving's A Prayer for Owen Meany. How such a fantastic book, one of the author's finest, could be butchered into a piece of sentimentalist treacle like Simon Birch?

Chris's answer to the questions:

!. We have no real record of what flogging was like in regards to crucifixion. Certainly there is no Biblical evidence that Jesus was turned into hamburger meat.

2. The chalice, like the flogging scene, was probably Gibson's invention- perhaps to signify his crime of being a thief. Again, no evidence to support that one. I'm guessing there may be a painting that portrays a similar image. Then again, according to the Greek translation, the two men may not have been thieves.

I love God. Strike away!

Is anyone taking this as serious as I am??

ophelia wrote:Chris's answer to the questions:

!. We have no real record of what flogging was like in regards to crucifixion. Certainly there is no Biblical evidence that Jesus was turned into hamburger meat.

2. The chalice, like the flogging scene, was probably Gibson's invention- perhaps to signify his crime of being a thief. Again, no evidence to support that one. I'm guessing there may be a painting that portrays a similar image. Then again, according to the Greek translation, the two men may not have been thieves.

Neat. Chris is a great source of info. Do you think he might know if there are any Jewish sources that even mention Jesus? Someone earlier in this thread brought up that we can prove his existence because of Jewish sources, but I honestly don't know of one, and I've read lots of books on the subject.

torch_32 wrote:
Neat. Chris is a great source of info. Do you think he might know if there are any Jewish sources that even mention Jesus? Someone earlier in this thread brought up that we can prove his existence because of Jewish sources, but I honestly don't know of one, and I've read lots of books on the subject.

I'll find out... I doubt it, that is, if we are not referring to modern sources.

thanks Chris for the answer

because this is in this forum Im adding this

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film4027

I havent seen the movie yet, but plan to mainly because as a Wiccan i dont want to be in the dark when discussions come up. Different Wiccans have different opinions, which is what Wicca is about in the first place...personal choice based on your own relationship with deity and your own things that have happened in your life to make you who you are.I personally agree with the Jewish belief that Jesus was a prophet. He did say he was God's son, but he also said that we are all children of God. In dont think he was saying that he was Gods only son in that case, but that is my belief. I dont think the movie is forcing religion on anyone, because it is your own choice of whether or not to see it.

the book is always better than the movie.