gwenhwyfar wrote:i guess my definition of "decent" would be:
*single, without wife or girlfriend
*under the age of 30
*intelligent
*likes a wide variety of music
*likes most animals( i have 2 small dogs)
*not dillusional/crazy( one of my ex's truly believed that i was such a slut that i couldn't even go to walmart to buy tampons without fucking all the cashiers)
*doesn't want to spend ALL his time with me, i do need my own space
*i'm not THAT anal about looks, but if they look like a baboon's ass, i will run the other way
*couteous, to my friends and family, open a door for me once in a while, don't talk down to me, ask before you try to stick it in my ass, etc.
*have their own job, car, and home
*and finally, know what the fuck they want, don't toy with me or string me along, either you want me or you don't

is this really too much to ask for?

It's not too much to ask for. My only problem with your list is the under 30 part. I'm 31, but I think I fit all of your other descriptions, just ask everyone else.

So what you're saying is, you don't want a guy who likes to sodomize small dogs while singing Freebird off-key, and enjoys moonlit walks along the beach, even if he does feel the need to bring the butcher knife along.

Well, good luck.

You'll need it, around here.

I think it can be one of two things. One, peoples age can be a factor. Most young people think they know it all. I have seen that people tend to be better as that get older. Two, some people go through hard time in life and that tends to make people grow up in a hurry. One more thing I think people need to learn to be alone with themselves. That it dose not matter if you find someone in life. (It is nice to have someone) Life goes on.

gwenhwyfar wrote:i guess my definition of "decent" would be:
*single, without wife or girlfriend
*under the age of 30
*intelligent
*likes a wide variety of music
*likes most animals( i have 2 small dogs)
*not dillusional/crazy( one of my ex's truly believed that i was such a slut that i couldn't even go to walmart to buy tampons without fucking all the cashiers)
*doesn't want to spend ALL his time with me, i do need my own space
*i'm not THAT anal about looks, but if they look like a baboon's ass, i will run the other way
*couteous, to my friends and family, open a door for me once in a while, don't talk down to me, ask before you try to stick it in my ass, etc.
*have their own job, car, and home
*and finally, know what the fuck they want, don't toy with me or string me along, either you want me or you don't

is this really too much to ask for?

no actualy thats easy. actually most of those sum up alot of the guys i know. hell even myself for that matter (sans the home thing. that stops most of the guys i know from hitting it all on your list).
its just theres some things your not factoring in:
*have tastes you can tolerate
*arent fucking bat shit crazy
*have a personality you can stand
*dont suck in bed
*and last but not least, arent total drunks.
most good guys are drove into being total drunks because they were a good guy and the wrong women ruined them and now theyve gave up on life (read:most of the people i know and myself).
id almost say togive up trying & just hope fate shines past what the greed of others has done to the world, but its more realistic to say youll keep moderatly improving with guys until you find one you enjoy being stuck with

Yep, seems a common theme is the age thing. It took me until I was 24 to find a good man-8 years older than me. We got married 2-1/2 years ago and He's taught me to be young & enjoy life! I'm staring at 30 now and feel younger and happier than I have my entire life.
I know that doesn't help you w/ your present situation but I just wanted to say there is hope.

Age shmage, one of my dear friends is happily married and has a beautiful daughter by her husband who is 10 years younger then she is. But see thats the other side of the coin. Older women with younger men, no problem. Older men with younger women, pervs... Damn morals and ethics, who needs em anyways...

There's lots of great guys out there, but they aren't wearing signs or anything. They are found by weeding through the rest. You need patience, a healthy sense of humor, & good timing.

Sometimes we meet the absolute right ones at the absolute wrong times. Doesn't mean we'll never have a happily ever after with them, just means we have to wait for it. In the mean time, we benefit from valuable friendships .

The good ones are definitely worth waiting for. The most important thing is to enjoy your time as a solo act while you can, though. Lady I speaks much wisdom. The time you invest now in yourself will serve you immeasurably in your later relationships.

Oh, and as a practical tip... we females can experience some of our strongest & most intense urges to mate at times we are the most fertile. Birth control is your friend! (Mama knows... )

Mother Mo wrote: [SNIP]
Sometimes we meet the absolute right ones at the absolute wrong times. Doesn't mean we'll never have a happily ever after with them, just means we have to wait for it. In the mean time, we benefit from valuable friendships .
[SNIP]

Thanks for saying this... you have made me smile.


Sometimes I need to be reassured that that a friendship can be a long and lasting relationship & it does not mean that you care any less for a freind than you would if said person was your lover.

Yes waiting for me is the hardest part....

Kitten

junkie christ wrote:*arent fucking bat shit crazy

What's wrong with bat shit crazy?

iblis wrote:

junkie christ wrote:*arent fucking bat shit crazy

What's wrong with bat shit crazy?

not bagging it.
seems to work fine for me..........

but then again look at most of the women i meet.......

junkie christ wrote:

iblis wrote:

junkie christ wrote:*arent fucking bat shit crazy

What's wrong with bat shit crazy?

not bagging it.
seems to work fine for me..........

but then again look at most of the women i meet.......

You have a very valid point there...

junkie christ wrote:
iblis wrote:
junkie christ wrote:
*arent fucking bat shit crazy

What's wrong with bat shit crazy?

not bagging it.
seems to work fine for me..........

but then again look at most of the women i meet.......


You have a very valid point there...

Bstr shit crazy is great till it drives you bat shit crazy

Mistress Eve(L) wrote:Bstr shit crazy is great till it drives you bat shit crazy

See, this goes back to what blindboy was saying. You just have to find the right type of psycho for you.

gwenhwyfar wrote:*under the age of 30

there's your problem.. everyone knows decent guys take time to mature.. much like a good wine. If you're REALLY lucky.. maybe 27-29.. but I wouldn't count on one under that. ;)

Of course, you could always take up necrophilia. At least then, you know it's a good sign if they give you the cold shoulder.

most good guys are drove into being total drunks because they were a good guy and the wrong women ruined them and now theyve gave up on life

That's exactly where I'm standing right now.

rev,

most girls turn into bitches because some guy fucked them over.


<---points to herself


happens to best of us, and it is such a vicious cycle

and we have a winner.

i was a good guy *perhaps most people still think i am* then the wrong girls FUCKED my best friends and gave me trust issues. AND THEN....i said eh, i'm over it.....i got intrested in another girl, and things were happening, and i was paranoid, but she said, "no everything is good" so i laid my emotions on the line, and i kicked paranoia out of the car...when i should have been smarter to realise i was a jealousy tactic for again one of my friends to fall for.....he knew she was psycho...and blah blah blah- so again i got dry fucked......and then i pretended to be a thoughtless/emotionless whore.......which has somewhat led to my most recent emotional breakdown.

I'm personally tired of girls playing games *wheather they realise they're doing it or not* i'm also tired of saying FUCK IT, i'm not intrested in girls anymore, i'm taking my shit more seriously and forgetting about chicks, and then fail cus i LOOOOOOOVE female attention......and for gods sakes.....did you see me at sanctus- chicks want me...unfortunatly, i'm tired of putting my cock in.....and thats it- i want dinner and a movie first.....i want kiss and chocolate.i want the sun and the moon........

IDIOT......

*damn now i need some Group X*

razor wrote:

gwenhwyfar wrote:*under the age of 30

there's your problem.. everyone knows decent guys take time to mature.. much like a good wine. If you're REALLY lucky.. maybe 27-29.. but I wouldn't count on one under that.

hey....i must say this is NOT right in full form.
I'm only immature when i am blistering drunk, or if i am making jokes

X wrote:and we have a winner.

i was a good guy *perhaps most people still think i am* then the wrong girls FUCKED my best friends and gave me trust issues. AND THEN....i said eh, i'm over it.....i got intrested in another girl, and things were happening, and i was paranoid, but she said, "no everything is good" so i laid my emotions on the line, and i kicked paranoia out of the car...when i should have been smarter to realise i was a jealousy tactic for again one of my friends to fall for.....he knew she was psycho...and blah blah blah- so again i got dry fucked......and then i pretended to be a thoughtless/emotionless whore.......which has somewhat led to my most recent emotional breakdown.

I'm personally tired of girls playing games *wheather they realise they're doing it or not* i'm also tired of saying FUCK IT, i'm not intrested in girls anymore, i'm taking my shit more seriously and forgetting about chicks, and then fail cus i LOOOOOOOVE female attention......and for gods sakes.....did you see me at sanctus- chicks want me...unfortunatly, i'm tired of putting my cock in.....and thats it- i want dinner and a movie first.....i want kiss and chocolate.i want the sun and the moon........

IDIOT......

*damn now i need some Group X*

the key is to expect nothing.... if you get let down..okay...if somebody surprises you and turns out to be a decent person...okay.

expect nothing.

I agree with you here though. I have withdrawn from the dating scene. It is definately not for me. I've dated 3 decent guys...people who actually cared. Two of which I stayed friends with after. The others were just assholes.

I also know what you mean by the dinner and movie stuff first. Rushing into things is NEVER A GOOD IDEA. EVER. EVER

EVEREVEREVEREVEREVER

yeah, if I find myself wanting to be in another relationship again, I'm going to be taking it incredibly slow. ..