If you want change....

Russo · Post by **Russo** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 3:53 pm

4X541N7 wrote:Also, fund-raising "Girls of The Revolution" Calenders, may be a good use...Keeps you out of cross-fire, right?...lol...

Whoa, that's one of the coolest ideas I've heard in a while. I'd jack off to hot chicks with guns anyday. Oh, and if I had a penis to jack.

Asher · Post by **Asher** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:16 am

Russo, stop it..you're turning me on.

4X541N7 · Post by **4X541N7** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:13 am

Or, we could make a calender, showing the effects of certain weapons & munitions on the human body...

MAY---------------------------NAPALM

*insert picture of a burnt corpse*

CrimeCore · Post by **CrimeCore** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:32 pm

When thinking about protest you have to think about a lot of shit.

1) Violence vs. Non-violence. While Violent protests cause a lot of damage to corporate offices and monopoly chains...you'll capture the minds of less people by breakin shit.

2) Is your objective to physically destroy the capitalist system...or gain the attention of more people and raise the number of revolting citizens.

Alot of people argue that it is best to educate so that when something fucken horrible happens (to the extent of where we will literally have to rebuild or lives and cities) which will happen eventually whether it's caused by nature or weapons. Someday we will have to rebuild our cities...do we want them the way they are now?

CrimeCore · Post by **CrimeCore** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:34 pm

do a google search on " Patriot act I and II" and see what you find...you'll be pretty fucken freaked out. President bush and the rest of the conservatives have set it up for a pretty good while now so that no matter who's president they still have control.

this is evident by the second patriot act...which..well just look that shit up...i found a link in another forum but I can't find the topic.

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:35 am

I hate to burst the revolutionary bubble, but people have been talking about overthrowing the government for ages now. Give it up. It's not going to happen. You're just going to talk about it over your brew and mull over how cool it'd be.

4X541N7 · Post by **4X541N7** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:37 am

iblis wrote:I hate to burst the revolutionary bubble, but people have been talking about overthrowing the government for ages now. Give it up. It's not going to happen. You're just going to talk about it over your brew and mull over how cool it'd be.

Damnit Iblis...I'm just trying to get a calender out of the deal...You're ruining it for me.....

Mercurygriffin · Post by **Mercurygriffin** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:58 pm

iblis wrote:I hate to burst the revolutionary bubble, but people have been talking about overthrowing the government for ages now. Give it up. It's not going to happen. You're just going to talk about it over your brew and mull over how cool it'd be.

I think you are right to an extent. I don't think enough people are pissed off to the point of revolt. It would be nice if the world were all warm and fuzzy and everyone got along but they don't and that is how we get buracrats. These people make a living of using carefully woven complexes of words to make everyone think that they are getting a good deal.

To quote William S. Buroughs: "There are no honorable bargans...... When doing bussiness with a religious son of a bitch, Get it in writing. You never can be to sure with GOD telling him how to fuck you on the deal."

When people get tired of dealing with words they will take action. The Boston tea party is a good exsample of what I am talking about. Someone does something that you don't like, say something. Who vares if no one agrees with you. The important thing is that you speak up. If one other person feels the same way then chances are that there are more than that. A revolt doesn't have to be violent, just understood. My solution, START DOING SOMETHING OTHER THAN SITTING ON YOUR ASS. Make a statement where ever you go. Speak your mind. And I don't mean get into screaming matches with someone who disagrees with you. If you have the chace to say your peace then do it.

I fight for the ones who can't fight, and if I lose, at least I tried.- Slipknot

4X541N7 · Post by **4X541N7** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:11 pm

First...I'm getting ready for this little Revolution, that's 'not going to happen'...Hell, I'll spear-head it if I have to...I'm sick of people waiting for their fuckin' savior...I don't think that I'm much of a savior...But there has to be one...Someone who will stand up against this machine, the american government...Fuck it...I know that I have enough people to start this...The question is...Will there be enough to finish it?

'If I have to give my life, you can have it...'-Slipknot

Melicious Scam · Post by **Melicious Scam** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:15 pm

iblis wrote:I hate to burst the revolutionary bubble, but people have been talking about overthrowing the government for ages now. Give it up. It's not going to happen. You're just going to talk about it over your brew and mull over how cool it'd be.

you are absolutely right iblis, however, if you sit around and talk about it, make magazines about revolting the government, educate, educate, educate, then maybe one day, not in our lifetime thou, there might be a revolt. but until that day comes, you need to educate.

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:19 pm

eventually it will happen
every great empire fails
and it implodes and you rebuild
and the cycle continues

Mercurygriffin · Post by **Mercurygriffin** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:23 pm

rec|use wrote:eventually it will happen
every great empire fails
and it implodes and you rebuild
and the cycle continues

Agreed. Wait a minute. I agreed with rec|use? It must be the end. :twisted:

Melicious Scam · Post by **Melicious Scam** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:34 pm

i agreed with recluse too.

4X541N7 · Post by **4X541N7** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:09 pm

Mercurygriffin wrote:
rec|use wrote:eventually it will happen
every great empire fails
and it implodes and you rebuild
and the cycle continues

Agreed. Wait a minute. I agreed with rec|use? It must be the end.

Holy fuck...I agree too...

CrimeCore · Post by **CrimeCore** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:57 am

agreed. Every empire falls.

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:53 am

rec|use wrote:eventually it will happen
every great empire fails
and it implodes and you rebuild
and the cycle continues

Maybe, but that only happens when the rebels have a lightsaber, a millenium falcon, and a muppet with an attitude.

4X541N7 · Post by **4X541N7** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:55 pm

iblis wrote:
rec|use wrote:eventually it will happen
every great empire fails
and it implodes and you rebuild
and the cycle continues

Maybe, but that only happens when the rebels have a lightsaber, a millenium falcon, and a muppet with an attitude.

What about a .50BMG, an old Cargo Van, & Merc and/or Junkie?

Russo · Post by **Russo** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:02 pm

4X541N7 wrote:
iblis wrote:
rec|use wrote:eventually it will happen
every great empire fails
and it implodes and you rebuild
and the cycle continues

Maybe, but that only happens when the rebels have a lightsaber, a millenium falcon, and a muppet with an attitude.

What about a .50BMG, an old Cargo Van, & Merc and/or Junkie?

That's called "three guys going to jail."

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:04 pm

4X541N7 wrote:
iblis wrote:
rec|use wrote:eventually it will happen
every great empire fails
and it implodes and you rebuild
and the cycle continues

Maybe, but that only happens when the rebels have a lightsaber, a millenium falcon, and a muppet with an attitude.

What about a .50BMG, an old Cargo Van, & Merc and/or Junkie?

Unless you're like, Bill Gates' illegitimate child, I don't think you could afford the amount of bullets you'd need to pull off a revolution. Nevermind the fact that if you were to go off half-cocked and ready for action, ignoring the mass amount of funding you'd need to get such an undertaking started, you'd still be viewed as little more than a terrorist letting off some steam. In the minds of the majority of the world, you would be grouped right along with Osama, Al Qaeda, and every other terrorist who's thought that their beliefs could be better spoken through a violent act.

Frankly, if going on a rampage is the only method to convince anyone, be it the current government or your next door neighbor, that your beliefs are right, then there is a serious flaw in that system of thought.

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:08 pm

history proves it
there's absolutely no way to debate it

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