shadow dancer wrote:A fresh, new Saturday night event sounds wonderful, but maybe someone affiliated with the private forum which may not be named and the Black Ball can explain to me why it is not a members only event because I'm a little confused. Correct me if I'm wrong, but let me see if I'm understanding this right. When it comes to spending money and providing warm bodies, everyone is welcome to attend and support the night and those that run the the private forum which may not be named forum, but when it comes to joining the forum that the money goes to support, everyone isn't welcome. That seems like it's expecting a little too much from people.

I thoroughly dislike drama on this scene, and I have no doubt that this post has the great potential to start it, but I need a rational explanation on this to make a judgment call on whether or not to attend.

OK. I really like you, and would love to welcome you on the private forum which may not be named, so here's a rational explanation from one warm body who has spent his money at quite a few KG-organized events, and whose "welcome" on KG.com has included quite a bit of unnecessary censorship by "moderators" and Admins. A lot of us KG members do not like the rules here in this playground. We've heard many times that we must deal with it, or make our own playground, with its own rules. We did just that, and invited a bunch of our friends, so that we could all talk about projects, events, and generally shoot the shit without being constantly bothered by flaming trolls or moderators wagging the finger of admonishment. Initially, some were upset that they were not on the first round of invitees, but that soon died down as they realized they have friends on the private forum which may not be named, who will eventually invite them in, using the nomination system provided. After all, if you have friends on the private forum which may not be named, it is only natural they will want you to be able to share in the troll-free environment. If you don't have any friends on the private forum which may not be named, why would you want in? So all was cool, until we decided to host an event of our own making. No, it's not an event exclusively for the private forum which may not be named members. That would be ridiculous. Are we 45 warm-bodied the private forum which may not be named members to be excluded from Sanctus? I would hope not. Though we all enjoy Sanctus, it is only once a month, and on a Sunday then, which is a big sacrifice when you have to work at 6am Monday morning. Also, though I hate to put it this way, it starts to take on a sameness of aspect after a while. A lot of us have wanted for some time, something better than wading through the norms at the various 80's nights around K-town, on the weekends when there was no Sanctus. So we at the private forum which may not be named decided that we should do something about that, too. We found an excellent venue, thanks to a long-time good friend of mine, that we knew would be well-received of the Knoxville gothic crowd. We arranged to have our event there, which we have been told we can make a regular event if it proves popular enough. We hired the DJ's. We are doing the decorations. We are doing the promotions. Yes, we are collecting the cover at the door, just like KG does at Sanctus. So do we want everyone to come and pay the cover and drink to support the event? Yes, we do. We hope it will be a big success, not only because we have put a whole lot of work into it, but because we love to do gothic-themed stuff in our spare time. I don't want to go gothic swing dancing when there is no Sanctus. I want better. People doing what we are doing is what makes a scene thrive. All the rest of you have to do is show up and enjoy it, as we have all done at many Sancti. And if you still don't feel good about it, Jennifer, I will comp you at the door, as your friend.

Seraph Antaine wrote:And if you still don't feel good about it, Jennifer, I will comp you at the door, as your friend.

If Cam & I come, will we also be comped at the door?

JaNell wrote:

Seraph Antaine wrote:And if you still don't feel good about it, Jennifer, I will comp you at the door, as your friend.

If Cam & I come, will we also be comped at the door?

No. No fucking way.

ReddErin wrote:

JaNell wrote:

Seraph Antaine wrote:And if you still don't feel good about it, Jennifer, I will comp you at the door, as your friend.

If Cam & I come, will we also be comped at the door?

No. No fucking way.

No fucking way that we are welcome, no fucking way that our money is welcome, or no fucking way that Seraph Antaine can comp us?

Thank you for the responses Erin and Tony.

oops, that's Erin's login
Seraph

ReddErin wrote:oops, that's Erin's login
Seraph

Ahh! There you go! Hiding behind that mean wife of yours!

Wussy man!!



hehehe

JaNell wrote:

ReddErin wrote:

JaNell wrote:

Seraph Antaine wrote:And if you still don't feel good about it, Jennifer, I will comp you at the door, as your friend.

If Cam & I come, will we also be comped at the door?

No. No fucking way.

No fucking way that we are welcome, no fucking way that our money is welcome, or no fucking way that Seraph Antaine can comp us?

My wife is a mean one. She means I cannot comp you, but of course you are welcome. I am comping people who are working on the event itself. I extended the offer to Jennifer as a gesture of friendship, not because she can't pay the $5, but because she seemed to have a feeling that she was being exploited. I didn't mean to start a landslide. Anyway, I know you are just poking at me. Quit it. See you at Black Coffee Hour.

shadow dancer wrote:Thank you for the responses Erin and Tony.

You are welcome, Jennifer. See you at Sanctus. Hope to see you at the Black Ball. If not, I will understand.

Seraph Antaine wrote:Anyway, I know you are just poking at me.

It is fun poking you.

Hmmm, since I'm not welcome on the private forum which may not be named, but my money is welcome to support the private forum which may not be named functions, maybe I should just go ahead and hand you the $5 at Black Coffee and avoid all the dressing up and parking hassles...

JaNell wrote:

Seraph Antaine wrote:Anyway, I know you are just poking at me.

It is fun poking you.

Hmmm, since I'm not welcome on the private forum which may not be named, but my money is welcome to support the private forum which may not be named functions, maybe I should just go ahead and hand you the $5 at Black Coffee and avoid all the dressing up and parking hassles...

Nah, just send a check.

ReddErin wrote:
Nah, just send a check.

We could set up a paypal donation box.

Buttercup wrote:We could set up a paypal donation box.

celticsmith wrote:
Besides.......IT'S NEW!!!

You are gonna suck all the newness out of it, Ain't ya?


Come have fun Jen, it's just like the 80's thing. Well, 'cept it is the dark spooky-type thing instead.

Come one come all to the new Saturday (hopefully) night shindig!
Sanctus on Sunday the 21st, the Black Ball on the 27th.
What more could a goth ask for?

I've been told by a certain one-letter named guest dj that I am required to come out so I guess I shall be there.

Buttercup wrote:

ReddErin wrote:
Nah, just send a check.

We could set up a paypal donation box.

Wow, wish I'd thought of that!
That's one of those great ideas, like substituting "black" wherever you'd normally put "Goth", and calling it a Black Ball. Wish I'd thought of that one, too!
Hey, wait...
I did.
And I am honored that y'all used it.

I so wish I could go to this, I have the perfect dress and everything (I will pay the entrance, and be there in spirit, if it would help the cause) Appropriately enough I will be attending a black birthday party in Missouri (my father is turning 50!!!, tho he doesn't look a day over 35, and I am not joking) Have fun for me, dance like crazy and flirt with everyone.

JaNell wrote:
Wow, wish I'd thought of that!
That's one of those great ideas, like substituting "black" wherever you'd normally put "Goth", and calling it a Black Ball. Wish I'd thought of that one, too!
Hey, wait...
I did.
And I am honored that y'all used it.

If you are claiming to have invented the term "black ball"..I suppose you are much more of a prolific and successful writer than we all thought...

I mean, black ball has an entry in the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language. And here I was thinking the term had been used for years.

I guess you learn something new everyday.

JaNell wrote:

Buttercup wrote:

ReddErin wrote:
Nah, just send a check.

We could set up a paypal donation box.

Wow, wish I'd thought of that!
That's one of those great ideas, like substituting "black" wherever you'd normally put "Goth", and calling it a Black Ball. Wish I'd thought of that one, too!
Hey, wait...
I did.
And I am honored that y'all used it.

Sheesh! I already gave you props for starting the drama-filled exploding thread we named it after. Did you prefer the explanation invovling 0rlok's necrotic testes?

i need a car. badly.
i so want to come to that.