First off I'd like to stress, I personally have never met a violent juggalo. When ICP and other juggalos talk shit about violence, dead bodies, mayhem....it's all entertainment.

I'm a big fan of horror. I love to see lots of blood splattered, and guts and gore everywhere. That doesn't mean I condone killing. I refuse to watch shit like the faces of death movies...because it is real. I know that the shit I watch is not "real".

I think most juggalos are pretty fucking passive. We can get our aggressions the world builds up inside us out through the music, and the talk of killing all the stupid fucking assholes in this world. It keeps us from actually doing it.

I realize that some people just don't "get" it. And probably never will. And, that's fine. But, I think it is horrible to judge people. Especially judging people on what a few young kids have done.

That is sort of like saying, since you know of one black person that smokes crack, that all black people smoke crack, or just because one person who just happens to be gay has aids, all gay people have aids. It's silly. And wrong.

There is a message behind their shit. But, in order to understand them, you have to know where they are coming from. You have to be down, living in the fucking projects, getting your ass beat just for being white, living with an alcoholic redneck mother who is always gone, leaving you and your baby brother with nothing more to eat than a raw potato to share. When you've experienced alot of the same fucked up shit as they have, and you have these experiences in common....you "get" it.

They lift you up out of your dark place, and let you know, hey brother or sister, you are not alone. There are more of us out there who struggle in our every day life. It's cool...all this shit will get better soon. You have a family here. There are people out there going through the same shit.....we should just band together, and care for each other, since our blood families could give a shit less.....and you know, no matter how down I get, I know I have family.

When I see someone wearing ICP garb....I try to make extra sure to compliment them...hey...nice shirt or whatever. Just to let them know....yeah....we're out here. We understand, we feel ya. There's someone out there who fucking cares, who gives a shit even though most don't. That is what family is about.

I will never be ashamed of being a juggalo. Never. I could care less what bad press they get, or what my other friends say

And, we buy all their shit to show appreciation for lifting our spirits, and helping us out of those dark eras.

Thank you for what you said, punkrockjoe....you get lots of respect from me.

And, I'd like to say.....that yes....there are alot of us juggalos out there with intelligence. We come from all walks of life...most of us outcast from "normal" society for one reason or another. We stick together, as a family, because we know how bad the world can be when you're alone. Sometimes it's a very dysfunctional family, but god dammit, it's more than what I had growing up.

Violent J is a brilliant man. He doesn't get half the fucking credit he deserves. And, he could give a shit less about it. He will always have my undying love and respect. Even if he grows another head, and names it violent ed....I'm still gonna be down

So, I guess....those of you that don't "get" it....that's cool. That's fine. But please don't diss us that do....Don't stereotype a whole group of people for what a few kids do....and, ya know...I still love them too. They are just kids...trying to find there way in this fucked up thing we call life.

Wow. This thread has totally changed from a topic on a humorous news report to an all out blitzkrieg of personal disclaimers and people stating that most juggalos are annoying. I get it already. Most juggalos suck. I haven't met enough juggalos to judge them all.

The point is, this thread was originally suppossed to be a lighthearted look at a humorous news report, and its gotten waaaaayyy to serious.

Lighten up you guys.








Holy shit, i was serious about something for once.

I will admit that 75% of the juggalo nation is , well, technicly retarded, but they are family. The juggalos in my opinion are a group of peeps who have always been on the recieving end of a back hand from other groups. Actually I would go as far as to say that juggalos expect it. Most of the juggalos that I have met were the kids that were picked on alot who one day just said "NO MORE! FUCK YOU!". I personaly was put in lockers on many occasions. Then one day I did the same. You've seen me dance. Im a quick little fucker and no one ever picked on me agian. That feeling of freedom from restraint is what I get from Psychopathic records. I can't speak for all of the juggalos but that is my reasoning.

my experience is with juggalos trying to start shit with me. then again, i live in maryville. this place is fucked up in general.

Mercurygriffin wrote:I will admit that 75% of the juggalo nation is , well, technicly retarded, but they are family. The juggalos in my opinion are a group of peeps who have always been on the recieving end of a back hand from other groups. Actually I would go as far as to say that juggalos expect it. Most of the juggalos that I have met were the kids that were picked on alot who one day just said "NO MORE! FUCK YOU!". I personaly was put in lockers on many occasions. Then one day I did the same. You've seen me dance. Im a quick little fucker and no one ever picked on me agian. That feeling of freedom from restraint is what I get from Psychopathic records. I can't speak for all of the juggalos but that is my reasoning.

i can see where you come from with the whole getting picked on thing. i was beat up everyday until i hit my breaking point. unfortunatly, that just made it change from getting picked on daily to getting into fights daily. i went to heritage and i wear all black. go figure.

I had a run in with a violent juggalo.I as a matter of fact went toe toe to toe with him I elbowed him as hard as I could but he was 6'4 and 290lbs.So after that elbow he beat me from piller to post. There again it was in a wrestling match and Dr D has become a good friend of mine.I say that to say this ICP is alot like wrestling.If you dont get either in the first thirty seconds of seeing it for the first time you probley will never get it.

First of all Buttercup...

I fully support Mass Murder...I would buy everyone ammunition if I thought they would use it...If that involved my own death...So be it...I'm an Evolutionist...And as humans, we have overcomed, just about everything we could possably have to fear...Now we only fear each other, & what we do not understand....

On that note...For everyone

Just because you do not understand, accept, reconize, or agree with something...Doesn't mean it's wrong....In fact, in a way, it make's you ignorant...This is not just a reference to this thread, but all things Political, Religious, Cultural, Social, or otherwise....

^THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE...MYSELF INCLUDED^

I agree that Juggalos, on average, are fucking juvenile, moronic, wastes of human flesh...They live as if The Psychopathics created their entire way of thinking, & sold it to them a discount...The few I respect...Joe, Phatass, Hyde, etc...Are intellegent, free-thinking individuals...So those exculded...I agree that they are fuckin' wastes...But to make some of the assumptions that you have pissed from your mouth, are beyond rediculious, but Ignorant...Sorry...You can hate me now...

karmakaze wrote:my experience is with juggalos trying to start shit with me. then again, i live in maryville. this place is fucked up in general.

Maryville is a fucked-up place to live...But...
"We are all happy to live in America!"[/u][/i].

judas gnb wrote:I had a run in with a violent juggalo.I as a matter of fact went toe toe to toe with him I elbowed him as hard as I could but he was 6'4 and 290lbs.So after that elbow he beat me from piller to post. There again it was in a wrestling match and Dr D has become a good friend of mine.I say that to say this ICP is alot like wrestling.If you dont get either in the first thirty seconds of seeing it for the first time you probley will never get it.

*giggle* Just that you are referring to him as violent...hehe.

Juggalett 4eva!!!
Haters Kiss mah @ss!!
hehe


Yall didn't know did yah
and if someone gave me ammunition and diplomatic immunity...there would be a lot more dead muthafukkers in KNoxVile


But thats just my little secret....

I've only met, say 200 or more juggalo's in the past couple of years working at HT. Yes it is wrong to judge the religion by its followers or pigeonhole all juggalos by the majority, but honestly, out of meeting all those I know 2 that I could stand to have in my company (abree is one). Its not like I'm judging all of them by two people or something, I have met and dealt with ALOT of these kids on a daily basis.

Mercurygriffin says that 75 percent of the juggalo nation is retarded.

Abree says its a family for those who have grown up in the projects, with abusive slacker parents and the like...

We all know what we think of when we think of white trash/trailer trash/jerry springer guests, etc, and it is those things I don't like about juggalos. I see them get into nothing but trouble around the mall and yell at security, steal, offend customers, etc, etc. Of course not all juggalos steal or are trouble makers, but, sadly stereotypes do exist for a reason, that being that the majority are like that and you can see various traits they have in common.

I am a lower class white person who probably has more in common with these kids than I do with rich white folk, I just happen to be intelligent I suppose and resourceful, and like Abree, was strong enough to rise out of some of the cards I was dealt.

My mom was a morphine and demorol addict, my father a dead beat and absent alcoholic and I took care of myself the majority of the time yet I still don't "get it". I think its cool they want to bring those who feel like outcasts together but I wish it was a little more positive and not so...well, ignorant seeming to most all outsiders. I don't think its gonna really help these kids adapt and function any better in society. Seems like it encourages the same fucked up lifestyles that their parents followed which landed them in ghetto's and abusive situaitions...

I don't know, just because you came from an ignorant and shitty background doesn't mean you can't rise out of it. I mean, I joke about being poor white trash, but really, I'm just poor and white...you don't have to be a waste of oxygen.

Of course, its all my overeducated pure tennessee white trash opinion...so don't mind me...

The funny thing about life an intelligence is that we all believe that we are farely intelligent and everyone else is a moron. Think about it long enough and something just does not add up.

Most followers of ICP I've met have been farely polite and even sweet on occasion. Ryan and Frost both have been extremely hospitable and kind hearted. Abree I've met a few times and she's cool.

Going against the grain a bit I believe most people are good natured, it's just the rotten ones get all the press.

Buttercup wrote: Mercurygriffin says that 75 percent of the juggalo nation is retarded.

Abree says its a family for those who have grown up in the projects, with abusive slacker parents and the like...



I am a lower class white person who probably has more in common with these kids than I do with rich white folk, I just happen to be intelligent I suppose and resourceful, and like Abree, was strong enough to rise out of some of the cards I was dealt.

My mom was a morphine and demorol addict, my father a dead beat and absent alcoholic and I took care of myself the majority of the time yet I still don't "get it". I think its cool they want to bring those who feel like outcasts together but I wish it was a little more positive and not so...well, ignorant seeming to most all outsiders. I don't think its gonna really help these kids adapt and function any better in society. Seems like it encourages the same fucked up lifestyles that their parents followed which landed them in ghetto's and abusive situaitions...

I don't know, just because you came from an ignorant and shitty background doesn't mean you can't rise out of it. I mean, I joke about being poor white trash, but really, I'm just poor and white...you don't have to be a waste of oxygen.

Of course, its all my overeducated pure tennessee white trash opinion...so don't mind me...

The funny thing about what you said is...you don't have to be poor and white...and I've never once lived in the Ghetto contrary to all stereotypes about black people. I've been homeless rather than that...purely because of the conotations. Your back ground doesn't have to be ignorant and shitty...it's just that YOU don't get it...and there ARE other ASSHOLE mall rats besides juggalos. Trust me I worked at Spencers for a long time before I even moved to Knoxville. ICP is something that the young ones who don't actually pay attention can rally around just like any other rebelious pre-teen thing. Theres a ton of layers to the shit that I didn't even realize where there. It's not literal. It's not religion. It's a subculture that you don't like. So what. And the 200 mall rats/ juggalos that you've seen at HT are not even a 1000th of all the ones out there. 75% of juggalos may be retarded...who really knows? We'd have to measure everyone's IQ to determine that. It's neither important nor relevant. Sounds more like an opinon to me.
If positive happy shit is what gets you through the day then that's good for you. It's not gonna be good for 100% of the people in existance. Thank goddess for that. I would have shot myself in the face working here at Disney World without Slipknot, ICP and the like. So...I think It's much better to sit quietly and fantasize about decapitating all the stupid, ignorant, condesending, myopic, small minded, cow-eyed cattle that I happen to come into contact with everyday than actually doing it.

It's an outlet for agressions just like anything else can be. Every subculture has it's extremists and elitists. It's idiots and geniuses. You should know that by looking in the mirror.

alot of you guys are a buch off low life mothafucka's that don't know ther ass from a hole in the ground . so i suggest you all shut your mouth before something really nasty gets started . or maybe it already has , who knows .

i agree with you on that . there are so many times when i had turned to icp or slipnot to let go and relax . it is so much better to imagine cutting someone's head off then actually doing so . it saves you from all the hassel of dispossing the body and so forth . i also just so happen to be one of the gothest out there ,but yet still find some peace of mind in the juggalo sceen . they are so much more open minded , as well as being more welcoming to new members . as for me , i truely find my self becoming more and more into there sceen then my own . i feel more conforatable with them then i do the goth's . the goth's are so closed minded and aren't open to new things . i'm not trying to sound like a hippercrit or anything , but it's the trueth . you guy's say that you are diverce and all but yet you criticise everything you see and hear. i think that you all should take a look into the mirror . then maybe you will find the trueth on your own , at least i hope you do .[/quote]

i'm sorry if i don't make any sence right now . i'm kinda drunk from the party and really pissed off about the whole situation . maybe i should wait untill i'm sober to repost . then again maybe not .

Silver Frost wrote: If positive happy shit is what gets you through the day then that's good for you. It's not gonna be good for 100% of the people in existance.

Anyone that knows me knows I'm rather negative and pessimistic, with a very dark and twisted sense of humour, but anyways, there isn't much more that I can add or argue on this topic so I suppose I'm done. Again, it was all simply my opinion which has been colored by my experiences working at the mall and being a moderator on here...

I agree CD that Frost and Ryan and Abree (who I know the best) have all been polite people, as well as Wicked Carnie, etc. So, I guess that makes it more like 5 juggalos I know that can live

Also, I don't wanna get ganked for being a "mothafucka" or whatever...wow, how many times have I been threatened by a juggalo....too many times....

I don't like hippies either, so don't anyone take this particularly personally....

ICP a Religion....hmmm... Could be, Stranger things have happened. Maybe it might be good for someone. It couldn't be worse than Modern Baptists, Nazi's, The KKK, The Black Panthers, Cobra, The World's current Governments, Ted Nugents fan club, WASP fans, The Salvation Army, Modern Baptists, Junkie Christ without anal, Iblis without a link, KnoxFleatoes, Hot Poker in the Eye, Leg Cramps durring sex, Snorting Sea Monkey Powder, Catholism in TN, Jews in TN. Punks on the Internet, Pickle Jars that never open, Wearing Pink and yellow together, Modern Baptists, Saying The alphebet backwards, mY hOrriBlE TyPiNG SkILLs, Being called a Newbie by a 7yr old, Apples in cottage cheese, Eating an orange after you brush your teeth, Reading long posts, Drama from people who hate Drama, Dogs licking thier Balls till orgasm in front of you, Modern Baptists, etc...
if anyone goes on a killing spree....kill me.
Damn, Alot of Drama on this thread.

Swing, swing, swing ... chop, chop, chop!

Codeine Coma wrote:if anyone goes on a killing spree....kill me.

Damn, Alot of Drama on this thread.

Well, I'll kill you,..but only cuz you asked nice..

And it's not drama...more like venting . Everyone hates to be pigeon holed.

Silver Frost wrote:Everyone hates to be pigeon holed.

But an awful lot of people enjoy being corn-holed.