Dark Elf wrote:You met who?
And yes.... she insited he was a Ballet dancer.... and he claimed he was also a Nurse......

His name was Fred, but he insisted it began with a Ph. Licked my shoe and invited me to an x party. I had only just turned 18, and thought he meant ex-girlfriend. LOL. Ahhhhh, to be that naive again. Needless to say, I didn't go.

Fucking Priceless!!!!

OH God I feel old. Gee Elf I remember that damned weirdo dancer guy. We all called him mr. frills. I remember the night mark and I were at Ace of Clubs and that dude put one leg up on the support rail and he tried to jump in mid-air and switch to the other foot. Mark and I had a good laugh he fell on his ass. Ah the coffin fond memories of the coffin. I remember being asleep in that thing and hearing a noise in the room .... I opened the coffin up and I scared the hell out of the maintainance dude. So if you always wondered why you never got anything fixed in the apartment it was because of me..... sorry..... LOL! Last I heard on Billy Bruce he had gotten in "trouble" again someone said they saw him back in Knoxvegas before we moved. Oh man did you have to bring up The Count again. Just when I thought I had blanked out another bad memory. I will have to say this Michael looked cute as "Eddie Munster" . Love you Michael!

Dark Elf wrote:Shit. Sorry.... but does anyone remember the DANCER?......Fuck XI....I know you know who I am talking about....what did we call him......THE DANCE MASTER! That guy that always came to Trumps, and the like, with his wife.... and spun and danced all over the place!!!! HA HA Ha! He would launch himself off of the railing and shit! Laura, Bone....comon! You remember that guy! ,,,,

Used to call him "Spinning Bob" and to the best of my knowledge he's still around. He showed up at a couple of Sancti, and at Amnesia when I was spinning there, as well as a few other places. He just doesn't seem to get out as often as he used to, at least not in the places I tend to hang these days.

Wow,
I'm late to this party....
If Bone hadn't posted it, I was going to mention that that fellow did indeed come to Sanctus a few times.

Lots I would've said has already been posted, but I'll add a few tidbits...
Nobody has yet mentioned when "The Closet" came into biz and nailed the coffin on Trumps' Thursday Night Alternative Dance Nights....

I just missed it, but does anyone on this board remember "The Factory" which existed off of 17th BEFORE Planet Earth?
I think David White was among the patrons.

I was there for the opening night Pizza Party/BYOB night to start the Planet Earth era. Chuck didn't yet have his Beer license, so we made do.

"The Count" and I were decently close friends for quite awhile before he went a little nuts, then he dated Sara Crass and went totally off the deep end.
RIP

Jim Ellis aka "Bones" from the P.E. days is out in Cali doing alot of theatrical stuff. He found me on Myspace and sent me a "Hello".

I read several names in other people's posts that I recognized, but for the life of me I can't remember the faces to match the names.
I'd know the faces better.

Surely Wasserman remembers some interesting times in that little run down apt complex on the very NorthWest corner of campus... Down by the RR tracks and the warehouses... I don't recall the names or the address.

Ahhh the days of Private Parties thrown by Brent Borrison and/or Jeff Johnson. Those were High Class, Artsy, and had the BEST music.in town.

Regarding the Boiler Room...
It was GREAT when it first opened.
A few years later, it had gone to crap and was filled w/ ghetto/thug types and was a real dive.

Regarding the "Golden Age" point...
We sure as hell DID have a golden age from about 88-92, and then it tapered off to the Mercury scene, then Neptune, then Lava.
At a point in 90-92, there was SOMEWHERE to go dance every night but Tuesdays! Once a week or once a month is just pitiful, but such has become the lameness of Knoxville's youth. (As a whole... of COURSE there are exceptions... just nowhere near as many as there once were.)
Back then, a vast majority Danced MOST of the time.

Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane.

guy who did the immortal chorus design here. i followed a link from my referrers to andy (vertigo25)'s comment. this is long, apologies.

i don't know if i would call that period a golden age of clubbing, but there were a lot of incredibly talented people doing interesting work at that point, which spun off a lot of careers in different directions. i was in knoxville recently and i can safely say that it was a lot better then than it is now.

anyway, let's play where are they now:

kevin of yeehaw industries started doing his work at acme pizza company around that time while working at acme. i did the neon sign and logo for acme while with robin easter design group in the old city. yeehaw is actually very well known in the national design press now.

i used to live in one of the flats in the alleyway behind what was then java in the old city (i assume it's now gone). it was the coffeehouse in the old city with a round window in the side. we did a ridiculous series of farcical posters anonymously under the name "good kids" making fun of the entire scene. seemed to galvanize a lot of people for a short while around 1992 or 3. that bit of work actually kicked off my own career, after briefly being sort-of homeless and living in the basement of cafe mozart up on market square.

i lived with fred mccord and jim haynes and, at one point, jason taylor. all are well.

jim and fred are both living in san francisco. fred is married with a little girl named zuzu. jim is still painting and now works with aquarius records. jason taylor now owns a small design company and is making amazing work. you can see his stuff at http://www.wonderbureau.com. he and i made http://www.radaronline.com for a gossip magazine which launched from nyc last year. folded in four months, but oh well.

beth goza, if anyone remembers her from hanging out with me and ana, is in Sf as well. she's working at linden labs on production of second life.

regarding immortal chorus cd's: there weren't any cd's of the first two albums i designed, the ones andy mentioned. that was before pressing discs was economically feasible. if anyone has copies of the older stuff, love to hear it again. my cassette copies got roached years ago.

boiler room was indeed a room underneath the underground. it was the afterhours club. everyone was free to brownbag. we often did.

howard, who ran the closet, is now living in los angeles. he goes by cody these days.

if anyone remembers ana from planet earth days, she's now living in kansas city, recently passed her fifth anniversary as an art director at shoebox greetings. we're still friends. ana's best friend jessica is now married, with a little girl. no idea where she is.

rachael buottoni is well. she's in san francisco now working as a designer. strangely, she and i never knew each other in knoxville, but are now close via common online friends.

i moved to chicago in 1994, and opened a design studio in 2002, which i run with my boyfriend. we're doing well. writing a lot for the design industries. we're working on a book on typography to be released next year.

michael: i remember you from planet earth. sorry to hear about the count. i always wondered about his whereabouts.

brent b. is still around, although i don't know if he's in knoxville these days. he's still doing great hair, lots of runway work and abstract studio work. assisted on bjork's medulla album cover.

i'd love to hear from some old friends from that period, if anyone knows them. i miss james molchan, steve britton, phoebe sharpe (who owned cafe mozart and phoebe's on gay street), jared the design director from metropulse, donovan and julie who were briefly roommates with fred, jim and i in the old city.

oh, and skinhead scott, who kept me from getting my ass kicked all over the place. we squatted togetehr in the basement of the restaurant.

if anyone knows any opf those folks, would love to talk to them again. best method of contact is through my site (http://www.patricking.com) or via the email address attached to this account.

y'all take care.

-the old folks home

Yeah.... my expectations @ Planet Earth were a few can lights for illumination on the dance floor, being served while even slightly underage, the regulars and a little drugs along with great music & friends! What more do you need...... other than sex!
wait....dont answer that.
Miss you Mike, BTW.
the good old days......hhhmmmmmmmmm

wow..that all makes me miss something i never experienced. Weird huh?

-ponders and wanders off-

patricking wrote:i used to live in one of the flats in the alleyway behind what was then java in the old city (i assume it's now gone). it was the coffeehouse in the old city with a round window in the side. we did a ridiculous series of farcical posters anonymously under the name "good kids" making fun of the entire scene. seemed to galvanize a lot of people for a short while around 1992 or 3. that bit of work actually kicked off my own career, after briefly being sort-of homeless and living in the basement of cafe mozart up on market square.

oh, and skinhead scott, who kept me from getting my ass kicked all over the place. we squatted togetehr in the basement of the restaurant.


-the old folks home

Those apartments in that alley were AWESOME. I visited someone there with Mike Phelps several times. I don't remember the names of the people who lived there. *sigh*

I still have a "zine" that was published around that time that has Mike Phelps's "Hingeman" on the cover. There is a "Good Kids" graffiti ad in it.

Am I mistaken in thinking that Scott lived on King'sRow (across from the old city/Summit Hill) around the time he was at CafeMozart? A few friend's and I hung out with him and Dave Coffey one night there, and he said he was working there.

I saw Scott at The Cramps show last year(....? maybe last year?). He's still the same as ever.

I still have a "zine" that was published around that time that has Mike Phelps's "Hingeman" on the cover. There is a "Good Kids" graffiti ad in it.

right. that was the one bit of advertising we did before we got bored and quit. i think i still have that.

mike hung out at our house a lot when he was dating candy. actually, everyone did, because that was when java had tables in the alley, and people would just sorta wander back to see what was going on. pretty sure the law firm who rented those townhouses regretted every having anything to do with it; we got graffitti'd on a regular basis

Am I mistaken in thinking that Scott lived on King'sRow (across from the old city/Summit Hill) around the time he was at CafeMozart?

dunno. don't remember. all i remember was that he ended up staying at cafe mozart as well, and ben (who worked as maitre d) needed studio space, so he was up at all hours painting in the basement. shortly after tht the restaurant got foreclosed upon and a lot of us lost personal effects in the padlocking. i left for chicago soon after.

I saw Scott at The Cramps show last year(....? maybe last year?). He's still the same as ever.

fantastic to hear. there were a lot of homeless folks in the old city at that point and he was one of the more reliable folks. could always count on scott to do what he said, whcih was sort of a rare characteristic.

dave coffey is the tall gangly guy with curly hair he kept dyed black? name's familiar. i think everyone referred to him as "gothic dave" or soemthing equally original. i sort of remember him trying to destroy a road sign the night of the moby/808 state show at the electric ballroom. that was also the night some thoughtul soul decided to out me to my brother while i was, how you say, chemically altered. the explanation was a lot of fun.

i also just remembered eve setting bruce's car on fire by the alleyway entrance to the underground because he owed her a lot of money, and nobody really caring. seemed to be just another in a long string of dramatic events in the old city at that point. knoxville government must've hated that place around then.

do the underground and hollywood ballroom (the floor above) still look like themselves, or did the spaces get stripped? those trompe l'oeil paintings and chandeleirs were amazing. i remember asking rob (one of the owners) why the places were so opulent, and he said that underground was making so much money at that point in cash that they had to hide it -- so it ended up liquidated into antiques for the space. not sure how accurate that was, but it sounded right. there were always lines to get in.

I know scott and saw him at that show too but don't really know the other folks.

Java is still a coffee house.

patricking wrote:mike hung out at our house a lot when he was dating candy .

Oh my...
You said her name....
LOOK OUT!!!


BTW, you MAY be thinking of Dave McCormick... He's REALLY tall.
I dated Candy for 4 years.
Dave M dated Candy...
Mike Phelps dated Candy...
I forget the name of the poor soul that fathered her child...

Michael_Xi wrote:

patricking wrote:mike hung out at our house a lot when he was dating candy .

Oh my...
You said her name....
LOOK OUT!!!

What he said.

yeah, dave mccormick is the one i was thinking of. always got his name mixed up with coffey's.

soooooooooooo i'm guessing candy made her presence known.

i distinctly recall a widely held sentiment that she was to be given the benefit of the doubt only because she kept good company.

She was a good girl who got too bratty and wild after turning 18.
I knew her from 14 and there really is a good strong girl under there, but she thrived on chaos. When she turned 18, the chaos she was used to became moot, so I guess she felt that she had to replace it with created chaos.
After Electra Divorced me, though we'd been out of touch for quite awhile, I gave Candy a place to crash for a few when I lived in 4th & Gill. I think it was mid to late '97.
She was Unappreciative and Bossy rather than a Guest, so I escorted her to the curb after about day 3 and I haven't seen her since.

I Loved her, but I could never live with her.
I heard that she went to the Military, but know no details after that.
Maybe she actually got her life together.
We can definitely Hope.

I remember us playing a song or two about her in Pleasuretek.
I really miss those days.
Remember when Sara Crass came to PE as Aphrodite and had no clothes on?!
I remember seein GWAR there for the first time while tripping on LSD...... then there was the summer of Extacy.... good lord! that was a great summer!
I certainly miss the Brent & Jeff parties. Ive been hanging out with Howard(Cody)s cousin (Tara) lately. She still lives here 1/2 the time and the other 1/2 in NYC as a professional body/makeup artist.

I had to miss the PE reunion party.... was it last year or the year before? But I was out of town. Supposedly I was on the "Interview" video that we did @ Brents house. I see Greg @ Cha Cha here & there.......... miss that shit! I do know someone who is writing a book about all those times......

Dark Elf wrote:Yeah.... my expectations @ Planet Earth were a few can lights for illumination on the dance floor, being served while even slightly underage, the regulars and a little drugs along with great music & friends! What more do you need...... other than sex!
wait....dont answer that......

Speaking of sex and PE..... how about the upstairs dance floor bathroom. I think it would be easier to count the people who didn't "get some" in there rather than those who did.

My personal favorite memory of PE... My Ex, Angela getting hit on on the dance floor by some frat guy, Sara saw that he wasn't getting the point she wasn't interested and dashed across the dance floor screaming something like "there you are baby" tackeled Angela to the floor, and layed a LONG kiss on Angela's lips.
Dude didn't know what to think and made himself VERY scarce fast....lol

Seems like I might remember that....God..... lets NOT bring up Angela Bone..... you poor bastard.... after she chewed me and Rick up & spit us out.... she got ahold of you for a l-o-n-g time!

Dark Elf wrote:I remember us playing a song or two about her in Pleasuretek.
I really miss those days.
Remember when Sara Crass came to PE as Aphrodite and had no clothes on?!
I had to miss the PE reunion party.... was it last year or the year before? But I was out of town. Supposedly I was on the "Interview" video that we did @ Brents house. I see Greg @ Cha Cha here & there.......... miss that shit! I do know someone who is writing a book about all those times......

First off, it's PleasureTech w/ a "CH".

Second, Sara was "UnDressed" as Lady Godiva.

I missed the party as well.
Someone should've compiled a contact list.
If they didn't, it MUST be done next time.

Dark Elf wrote:Seems like I might remember that....God..... lets NOT bring up Angela Bone..... you poor bastard.... after she chewed me and Rick up & spit us out.... she got ahold of you for a l-o-n-g time!

I'm just glad that I only clashed w/ her Evil Once, and Never got involved w/ her beyond my relationship w/ Sara.