Temple Performances

Midnight_Scarlet_Angel · Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:33 pm

Why Pellissipi?

I'd rather have a savings account, mutual fund and stock - than a "designer degree."

And PTCC's theatre arts program. Top 4% nationally. (Rehearsal for our newest show is the "every night" Obscurity is referring to.)

Not being a number. I took AP classes my last HS semester, and fell in love. Classes of 25 or less. Teachers that are not burnt out. Professors that make an effort to know your name.

And yes, if you want to use high IQ - SAT - ACT - Whatever, to act skanky, be my guest.

I'm not being pissy, most of my last post was retorical.
I'd rather hear the God-awful opinion you harbor, than see your fake airs of friendliness.

vicious_blood · Post by **vicious_blood** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:55 pm

Why is it, everytime I read this thread (except for the 1 or 2 actually decent posts on it), do I start hearing Charlie Brown's teacher in my head? I'm serious.

Coor · Post by **Coor** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:57 pm

vicious_blood wrote:Why is it, everytime I read this thread (except for the 1 or 2 actually decent posts on it), do I start hearing Charlie Brown's teacher in my head? I'm serious.

OK...since this has nothing to do with the topic I feel I can post...

Kit that was fucking halarious! I litterally spit out my beverage...

vicious_blood · Post by **vicious_blood** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:59 pm

Coor wrote:
vicious_blood wrote:Why is it, everytime I read this thread (except for the 1 or 2 actually decent posts on it), do I start hearing Charlie Brown's teacher in my head? I'm serious.

OK...since this has nothign to do with the topic I feel I can post...

Kit that was fucking halarious! I litterally spit out my beverage...

I think you totally just spit out your beverage for attention! You attention whore! God I can't stand when people laugh too hard for attention. Ugh.

Coor · Post by **Coor** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:06 pm

vicious_blood wrote:
Coor wrote:
vicious_blood wrote:Why is it, everytime I read this thread (except for the 1 or 2 actually decent posts on it), do I start hearing Charlie Brown's teacher in my head? I'm serious.

OK...since this has nothign to do with the topic I feel I can post...

Kit that was fucking halarious! I litterally spit out my beverage...

I think you totally just spit out your beverage for attention! You attention whore! God I can't stand when people laugh too hard for attention. Ugh.

Damn it! You caught me! I should of totally thought it out...once I spit things on my keyboard...I realized no one was around to feed me attention! :oops:

heh.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:55 pm

Obscurity13 wrote: Personally, I always thought that is what this scene is about. To be a group of peoples that do not judge and predetermine based on appearance.

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:58 pm

Jack wrote:
Obscurity13 wrote: Personally, I always thought that is what this scene is about. To be a group of peoples that do not judge and predetermine based on appearance.

OMG!!1 you made jack use an emoticon! you bastard!

Obscurity13 · Post by **Obscurity13** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:45 am

Yep... OMG...

Onibubba · Post by **Onibubba** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:36 pm

How the fuck did I miss this? I just assumed it was a thread about live shows at Temple, like Morello(?) a few months back. I'm a pretty good thread killer, so I'll go ahead and put this out of its misery.

It is hard to be negative on this without risking offending people. My apologies. But, I've got to admit, It has hindered my attendance. I cannot remember the exact Temple...Some time around the horror themed night, but there were some pictures posted here that actually made me think, well, so much for that night.

I am not talking about burlesque or risque dress, or people dancing, having fun, and trying to just be comfortable in a hot club. I am talking about "girls gone wild" type behavior. Sure, it draws my attention, but it also makes me feel too much like a dirty old man in a crowd that is too young and hip for me to be around anymore. I do realize that my discomfort is my problem, not yours. But if I am not comfortable somewhere, I stop going.

tat2jay · Post by **tat2jay** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:41 pm

i have to admit, this makes me rather sad
i have always looked at temple as a place where everyone can be who they are and not worry about what people think of them, or feel out of place
guess i was wrong.

but then again , i live in a dream world where people get along and just hang out and be groovy - maybe i will continue to blindly and blissfully live there - maybe not

i have much more to say about this, but i dont want to -
ill be out there saturday night having my drinks and talking with everyone just like every week

Onibubba · Post by **Onibubba** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:37 pm

Man...The last thing I want to do is make Jay sad. I want to stress something here, and this has me disclosing more than I would like on a public forum, but it needs to be said:

I have problems dealing with people and crowds. I've been that way for a long time. If anything, Temple has helped me to get out more and try to be more social. Unfortunately, if I get uncomfortable with anything, I tend to dwell on it until it becomes an issue. This thread addressed something that had become such an issue for me, so I commented on it.

My post was not meant to give a bad impression of Temple. I don't think anyone meant to do that. The fact that people were able to give us a weekly saturday night celebrating the music we love is almost unheard of in most cities. Yet they were able to accomplish that here. Every night at Temple is a little bit different, and that is the beauty of it. You never know what to expect or what you will miss by not showing. Rest assured Jay, The atmosphere at Temple is conducive to people getting along and being cool with one another.

Mother Mo · Post by **Mother Mo** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:03 pm

tat2jay wrote:i have to admit, this makes me rather sad
i have always looked at temple as a place where everyone can be who they are and not worry about what people think of them, or feel out of place
guess i was wrong.

but then again , i live in a dream world where people get along and just hang out and be groovy - maybe i will continue to blindly and blissfully live there - maybe not

i have much more to say about this, but i dont want to -
ill be out there saturday night having my drinks and talking with everyone just like every week

I like your dream world much more than the reality offered by some, dear. Regardless of who wears what.

Temple, Sanctus, & the community at large are still more accepting & tolerant than alot of places we could be. I shared in the idealized conception that folks here would be nicer... the whole in-group out-group phenomenon would suggest that since we're all on the "island of misfits toys" we should ban together & be cool with each other. For the most part, I still believe this to be true, but some folks have taught me that I can't expect it from everyone. Even among the freaks, there are those who wish not to be classified together & strive to distinguish themselves from peers in a variety of ways. Maybe its the music you like/ don't like, or the fashion issues... whatever. Something in that person's self image is threatened or made uncomfortable by the percieved association, so they say loudly & publicly... "I'm not like that person!"

There are others of us who are truly accepting & open minded when meeting new folks. Age, IQ, money, fashion, & music be damned... as long as the person isn't hurting anyone, we are cool with them. Hell, even when they do hurt others, we're still fairly nice, we just don't offer out as much trust. Obscurity13, please don't think we're all one way or another. You'll find groups of all kinds of people with similar issues as ours has. We all hope when we find a community we feel at home in that we will be accepted rather than judged, but there are always a few folks who are just better at judging. There are still plenty of others for you & other new folks to hang with who won't do that. Apparently most of us are at Temple & Sanctus, since the rest decided they'd rather not attend for whatever reasons. We still miss them & hope one day they might change their minds & come back to play, but to each his own.

Yeah, I probably sounded like the peanuts teacher there, but oh well. BTW Kit & Coor, that was really funny. You guys are good at the art of gently poking fun without causing too much damge. I love that about both of you.

Oni, I'm sorry you don't dig the crowds. My husband can't handle them well either. I hope you still make it out at least from time to time. You're one of the ones I'd really like to have a conversation with sometime. You've got great taste in movies & seem like a genuinely nice person. That rates high in my book.

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:31 pm

Midnight_Scarlet_Angel wrote:Why Pellissipi?

I'd rather have a savings account, mutual fund and stock - than a "designer degree."

And PTCC's theatre arts program. Top 4% nationally. (Rehearsal for our newest show is the "every night" Obscurity is referring to.)

Not being a number. I took AP classes my last HS semester, and fell in love. Classes of 25 or less. Teachers that are not burnt out. Professors that make an effort to know your name.

And yes, if you want to use high IQ - SAT - ACT - Whatever, to act skanky, be my guest.

I'm not being pissy, most of my last post was retorical.
I'd rather hear the God-awful opinion you harbor, than see your fake airs of friendliness.

I got my AA from PSTCC and I loved it. But I didn't really have that Yale option and I assumed that being that smart would get you a scholarship or something...

I'm not being pissy, most of my last post was retorical.
I'd rather hear the God-awful opinion you harbor, than see your fake airs of friendliness.

Heh. I don't think presenting a "fake air of friendliness" is something I have ever been accused of.

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:41 pm

Jack wrote:
Obscurity13 wrote: Personally, I always thought that is what this scene is about. To be a group of peoples that do not judge and predetermine based on appearance.

Yeah, honestly I don't get where it comes from that we are supposed to be all loving and embracing and not judge people. I don't like many people at all really and am highly selective of who I have around me and I like it that way. My friends are smart, loyal, creative and pretty much drama free. I'm not a christian, so I can judge on appearance and whether you admit it or not, I'd say you do too. I may make an instant judgement on a person but that doesn't mean its an extremely accurate or indepth judgement. Someone slurring their speech and wallowing in their own filth may be disgusting and I many not want anything to do with them, but I'm not gonna say they are a bad person. . .just like someone acting like a 2 dollar whore isn't someone I really want in my house or near my friends. I don't think that makes me a horrible person.

I don't know, perhaps its because I never felt like an outcast looking for a group to accept me. I was always a weird person wearing too much black, but I talked to anyone in any group as long as they weren't assclowns and I found myself to be pretty well accepted by anyone that knew me. *shrug* I don't know, I don't think being all accepting does anyone much good but bring more shit in their lives...

vicious_blood · Post by **vicious_blood** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:41 pm

Mother Mo wrote:
tat2jay wrote:i have to admit, this makes me rather sad
i have always looked at temple as a place where everyone can be who they are and not worry about what people think of them, or feel out of place
guess i was wrong.

but then again , i live in a dream world where people get along and just hang out and be groovy - maybe i will continue to blindly and blissfully live there - maybe not

i have much more to say about this, but i dont want to -
ill be out there saturday night having my drinks and talking with everyone just like every week

I like your dream world much more than the reality offered by some, dear. Regardless of who wears what.

Temple, Sanctus, & the community at large are still more accepting & tolerant than alot of places we could be. I shared in the idealized conception that folks here would be nicer... the whole in-group out-group phenomenon would suggest that since we're all on the "island of misfits toys" we should ban together & be cool with each other. For the most part, I still believe this to be true, but some folks have taught me that I can't expect it from everyone. Even among the freaks, there are those who wish not to be classified together & strive to distinguish themselves from peers in a variety of ways. Maybe its the music you like/ don't like, or the fashion issues... whatever. Something in that person's self image is threatened or made uncomfortable by the percieved association, so they say loudly & publicly... "I'm not like that person!"

There are others of us who are truly accepting & open minded when meeting new folks. Age, IQ, money, fashion, & music be damned... as long as the person isn't hurting anyone, we are cool with them. Hell, even when they do hurt others, we're still fairly nice, we just don't offer out as much trust. Obscurity13, please don't think we're all one way or another. You'll find groups of all kinds of people with similar issues as ours has. We all hope when we find a community we feel at home in that we will be accepted rather than judged, but there are always a few folks who are just better at judging. There are still plenty of others for you & other new folks to hang with who won't do that. Apparently most of us are at Temple & Sanctus, since the rest decided they'd rather not attend for whatever reasons. We still miss them & hope one day they might change their minds & come back to play, but to each his own.

Yeah, I probably sounded like the peanuts teacher there, but oh well. BTW Kit & Coor, that was really funny. You guys are good at the art of gently poking fun without causing too much damge. I love that about both of you.

Oni, I'm sorry you don't dig the crowds. My husband can't handle them well either. I hope you still make it out at least from time to time. You're one of the ones I'd really like to have a conversation with sometime. You've got great taste in movies & seem like a genuinely nice person. That rates high in my book.

Nah, Mo...you didn't sound like Charlies teacher. You're actually one of the few that I actually like listening to.

I wish everyone could just get along. *Le sigh*

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:59 pm

WOW!

That pretty much sums it up for me on what happened to this thread.

Let me give ya a hint children............people mostly suck..........mostly.

I do love me some Morgan and Kit.....and well some of you others too.

Face it, no matter if you are goth or not, you are gonna judge and be judged. Do with that as you will.

I would like to remind you all as Shadowdancer and Miz Kitty have said.......dress code or lack there of, could get the club night shut down.

That is all, carry on.

Obscurity13 · Post by **Obscurity13** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:33 pm

Hardcoregirl wrote:
Jack wrote:
Obscurity13 wrote: Personally, I always thought that is what this scene is about. To be a group of peoples that do not judge and predetermine based on appearance.

Yeah, honestly I don't get where it comes from that we are supposed to be all loving and embracing and not judge people. I don't like many people at all really and am highly selective of who I have around me and I like it that way. My friends are smart, loyal, creative and pretty much drama free. I'm not a christian, so I can judge on appearance and whether you admit it or not, I'd say you do too. I may make an instant judgement on a person but that doesn't mean its an extremely accurate or indepth judgement. Someone slurring their speech and wallowing in their own filth may be disgusting and I many not want anything to do with them, but I'm not gonna say they are a bad person. . .just like someone acting like a 2 dollar whore isn't someone I really want in my house or near my friends. I don't think that makes me a horrible person.

I don't know, perhaps its because I never felt like an outcast looking for a group to accept me. I was always a weird person wearing too much black, but I talked to anyone in any group as long as they weren't assclowns and I found myself to be pretty well accepted by anyone that knew me. *shrug* I don't know, I don't think being all accepting does anyone much good but bring more shit in their lives...

Perhaps I've been misunderstood, beacuse it surely appears to be. I mean just from reading some of the things people have said in here, and Im not directing this at you because I completely understand your view. It just sounds like you're all a bunch of elitist mother fuckers. To put it lightly. Quite frankly I've met both types of people that consider themselves goth, or what have you. But as I said its my understanding, that its basically an overall acceptance of, to quote someone in this thread, "live and let live". Not a judgement of if they belong there or not. I dunno, perhaps it should be taken as an overall assumptions as to how people should be.

As I said... there are two people in the world. Good and bad. Perhaps thats a bit black and white for some of you people. But really that's what it boils down to, if you don't agree thats you're right to disagree. I never said I was perfect or right myself. Just that perhaps Im a bit more laid back and acceptable of people.

Oh and Im not christian either... However, that can be another discussion perhaps another day.

Onibubba · Post by **Onibubba** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:12 pm

Obscurity13 wrote: It just sounds like you're all a bunch of elitist mother fuckers. To put it lightly

Obscurity13 wrote: perhaps Im a bit more laid back and acceptable of people.

Sorry for pulling these out, but those two quotes in the same message made me laugh.

There are over 1000 members on this board. On any given night, Temple will have 200 people partying their asses off and having a great time. In this thread, less than 30 have offered an opinion. It is safe to say that the vast majority of the others do not really care. In reality, everyone that I have actually met here in Knoxville is pretty cool. Not one mother fucker. Not one.

As for those of us that did post here, we're just voicing an opinion, one that we were asked about. Does that really make us elitist mother fuckers? Opinionated assclowns maybe, but not mother fuckers

Just remember, message board - speak can sound fairly snooty at times, but it is all good when we drink.

YOU DRINK!!!

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:53 pm

Onibubba wrote:YOU DRINK!!!

nice to see the influence of you drink spread, that just made my afternoon.

Onibubba · Post by **Onibubba** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:04 pm

junkie christ wrote:
Onibubba wrote:YOU DRINK!!!
nice to see the influence of you drink spread, that just made my afternoon.

Hadn't seen it in a while and thought the mood needed a little lightening. Besides, does any quote sum up Knoxgothic so well?

Temple Performances

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