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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:36 pm
by karmakaze
Jack wrote:The misconceptions about Christianity in this thread are staggering.


a lot of it depends on what sort of christianity you are following

i was raised in a non-denominational old testament church. most anything i say christian related is from that perspective.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:48 pm
by 4X541N7
In the Christian Bible, it clearly states to follow your government...Unless it goes against the teachings of God...

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:53 pm
by Jack
The Bible also clearly states that Christians should live together and share all their wealth, "to each according to his need". Sounds pretty Communist to me.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:16 pm
by rec|use
"Marx...taught that God was a projection of man's radical alienation: from himself, from his
labor, and from a human community cruelly divided by class barriers. Man's salvation, in
Marx's view, thus lay within history, in the creation of a mundane utopia whose coming
would be hastened when men were no longer bewitched by the false promises of a kingdom
to come in the time beyond time."


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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:29 pm
by Jack
Just because Marx wasn't Christian doesn't mean some Christians weren't Communist in their approach to life.

I mean, the Book of Acts is a little older than Marx. Just a little, mind you.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:38 pm
by rec|use
i would consider marx a better authority on communism then i would the king james bible

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:55 pm
by Jack
Dude, you really like to argue for its own sake, I gather. Obviously I wasn't saying that the Bible established the philosophy of Communism in every form which we now see it. Fucking duh. I was saying that the disciples of Jesus specifically espoused a certain lifestyle in the beginning of the Book of Acts which is fundamentally Communist (i.e. "We should all pool our money and divide it up equally." )

And I only did that to point out how many radically different and sometimes contradictory things the Bible says, for the purpose of making the point that to discuss "Christians" in such broad, general terms is pretty ignorant and inaccurate.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:07 pm
by JaNell
oldestroll wrote:
Jack wrote:Everyone in this thread needs to eat their corn flakes.



I am going to follow Jack's adbice and eat some corn flakes( frosted or not) and stay the hell out of this discussion/argument before I say something that makes all of you hate me more than Ja nell already does. Love to you sexy:::::::::::


Don't you shake that wrinkly old stick at me!

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:16 pm
by rec|use
Dude, you really like to argue for its own sake,



no sir you're wrong


don't get mad at me if the author of the communist manifesto
feels that religion esp christianity has no place in communism

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:20 pm
by blindboy
Dude, you really like to argue for its own sake, I gather.


lol Jack you are the last person on this board to be up in arms about this. I seem to remeber a very argumentive ex-cowboy. :p

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:27 pm
by rec|use
there is an on going trend in this thread

it's called you can't have your cake and eat it to
and every time it gets proven
somebody gets mad

sorry guys

can't do it

can't belive in no rules and follow the ten commandments

can't believe in the combined effort of the human sprit to build industry and community and everyone is equal if jesus was better than everyone


but i will tell you a government structure that loved jesus christ


nazi germany

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:38 pm
by paintedbird
jet wrote:Nope, not at all. That is what the Holy Spirit is for. The Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost

Yes they are all supposed to be equal and of the same essence, just with different roles according to the Christians I live around. So maybe it just depends on the individual Christian, but if Jesus was just a regular person filled with the Holy Spirit, then why is he said to be seated at the right hand of the Father to this day, and what is the diff. between him and other Christians who claim to be spirit-filled. (Jesus supposedly poured out the Spirit for each person to receive)???

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:54 pm
by jet
Yeah What he said.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:58 pm
by paintedbird
who?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:16 pm
by Jack
blindboy wrote:
Dude, you really like to argue for its own sake, I gather.


lol Jack you are the last person on this board to be up in arms about this. I seem to remeber a very argumentive ex-cowboy. :p


Nope. I was always having to clarify my position; I was rarely, if ever, trying to change anyone else's mind. Only attempting to get people to understand my own opinion.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:43 pm
by QueenOfTheFlock
paintedbird wrote:
jet wrote:Nope, not at all. That is what the Holy Spirit is for. The Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost

Yes they are all supposed to be equal and of the same essence, just with different roles according to the Christians I live around. So maybe it just depends on the individual Christian, but if Jesus was just a regular person filled with the Holy Spirit, then why is he said to be seated at the right hand of the Father to this day, and what is the diff. between him and other Christians who claim to be spirit-filled. (Jesus supposedly poured out the Spirit for each person to receive)???



It really does depent on the type of Christianity you follow. Some believe they are all the same, others believe they are all three completely seperate....I tend to believe they are together but seperate at the same time. I'm non-denominational and have very liberal thinking for a Christian.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:36 pm
by DarkVader
Having received a complaint about this thread, and not being in the mood to do more than skim it briefly, I'm going to do three things.

1. Thread dumpstered. It's that silly.

2. Thread locked. I don't want any more complaints about it.

3. It's time for the group warning...


So, as most of you are aware, KnoxGothic.com doesn't allow you to use this forum for personal attacks. There are a few personal attacks in this thread. Those of you who did it already know you're responsible, and you need to KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF.

Thank you,

The Management.