Well, apparently my funeral idea has been done and the whole coffin thing on stage thing has been done to death. SO i need your input on my next idea.

Since I already cut myself up so much on a weekly basis I'll start doing surgery on myself at shows. I'm not too keen on the idea, because frankly, I've done about all the bad things you can do to your body, and even when pumped on adrenaline, it fucking hurts. I have been to the emergency room 4 times in two years, and on many occasions have needed to go but was not too happy about waiting around in the waiting room with stuff like cuts all over my body in my metal underwear while being stared at by a room full of sick kids as I hold my nipple on with a partially severed finger.

So I guess i'll have the stage set up as a shady operating room. maybe 3 fake tile walls all around the kit & amps and myself on an operating table, naked and either opening myself up while wearing a headset, or having someone that is trained like a retired vet or something cut on me.

What do you guys think? Would this make an entertaining show? What else would you like to see?

I'm going to start working on my vile operation themed songs tonite if I can take the bandages off my left hand. I tried yesterday and they were just too tender.

BTW I'll be in TN playing at the asylum in nashville the 27th of december, so if you want to meet me after the show, I'll gladly blood autograph shirts and such for you guys.

DaRkAlF wrote:
What do you guys think? Would this make an entertaining show? What else would you like to see?

I would like to see you get some professional help. I'm sure your dad can afford it.

That is if you are for real, of course, which I still seriously doubt.

how bout just playing music no gimmicks i mean if your music is good you dont need to cut yourself up i learn my lesson the hard way by setting my hand ablaze many many years ago since then its been about giving a show to the people but not at the cost of my health i mean sure you might get a following but what good is when your laid up in a hospital bed not being able to write or record

people are desensitized to good music. you can be an incredible musician and people will listen and go "ok. That's nice." Unless they make associations with the music that are favorable to recall, they will not enjoy the music.

One way a lot of famous bands got their link was just from being on mtv / the radio. With mtv they have spring break specials and reality series that show young teens how they're supposed to feel. The teens want to be that way and associate the music they're supposed to like with their pending teenageness. That is a very powerful association!

Then there are bands that are kinda underground. They're good music but most of their following didn't just become fans because of the music, but rather the live show, or more often the first time they listened to that band was during a favorable evening or time in their life. How many cds do you love and have fond memories attatched to? Personally, my favorite albums all make me think of the same kinds of things. They're all very fond memories with powerful emotional attatchment. Being able to channel that with music is AMAZING.

So here I am, trying to give people who go out to clubs to get drunk something to bind to my music. I try to translate the same feeling of shock and horrifying awareness that I feel when I have myself ripped open and bleeding in immense pain and singing deeply personal lyrics. If the audience sees the imagry, and feels the music, an emotional bond can be formed and that listener may then later go back to those emotions just by listneing to my songs. Hopefully they make the connection that me bleeding and screaming is a very frank symbolic act of expression about what we all go through every day.

I like the idea man. You can do your act at the goth pride rally

youve got a clue... ill give you that
audiences need to be slapped in the face and beaten these days
but the music has to be that caliber too. finely tuned machine man.
these show ideas are grossly stereotyped. really. find something thats YOU. do it.
hearts in the right place, but your head is about 10 years behind.
good luck.

Okay, the first thing that comes to my mind is that I have done something similar to this. I jabbed a hat pin through my arm. There was a grotesque amount of blood. The difference is that it did not hurt and I was able to pull the needle out and instantly heal myself.

The truth is though that I am not like you. I cannot understand doing potentially permanant injuries to myself on purpose. I can understand taking risks, but this seems extensive. Instead of really hurting myself I perform magic. Granted, it takes more time, but I will feel much better in the morning.

I understand that this route is probably not for you. You probably receive some amount of pleasure for the damage that you do to yourself. To each his own. However, if you decide that you want similar effect without the permanant effects, look for geek tricks. As far as I know ( and I really have no idea) some of these tricks are unexploited in the world of music.

I've got a perfect suggestion for a surgery type. If you could pull this off on stage, your name would live on longer than Junkie Christ himself.

Three words: Self Performed Lobotomy

It's been done before and is fairly well documented. Granted, if you screw up, there could be some...side effects... but, common, it'd be great!

And just think, if it's successful, you'd find yourself a permanently happy person =)

Suggestion should be taken with a grain of salt and an ounce of sense. The poster is not responsible for any action taken because of this post.

Rhalin wrote:I've got a perfect suggestion for a surgery type. If you could pull this off on stage, your name would live on longer than Junkie Christ himself.

Three words: Self Performed Lobotomy

It's been done before and is fairly well documented. Granted, if you screw up, there could be some...side effects... but, common, it'd be great!

And just think, if it's successful, you'd find yourself a permanently happy person =)

Suggestion should be taken with a grain of salt and an ounce of sense. The poster is not responsible for any action taken because of this post.

granted my plans for the next year or two tacked with how imfamous my name is anyway... thats what it would take.... lol

DaRkAlF wrote:people are desensitized to good music.

Exactly what people are you talking about? I love good music, I live for good music, and I'm certainly not desensitized to it.

Dead_End wrote:

DaRkAlF wrote:people are desensitized to good music.

Exactly what people are you talking about? I love good music, I live for good music, and I'm certainly not desensitized to it.

i wonder if it means" my music sucks so ill goth shock rock you!! "
hey it worked for the one guy....

So much 4 the body being a temple, eh?!

The Stormstress wrote:So much 4 the body being a temple, eh?!

noone ever said what kind of a temple...............
those set temples had some crazy shit goin on (but they werent really temples in the sense of the word, just were referred to as such)

Synthpopalooza wrote:Funny thing, I have noticed about much of what gets shoved down our throats by top 40 and commercial radio these days ... it's not about how good the music is, it's the image ... that's why folks like Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears seem to get all the attention they do, because they put on an image that shocks people, moreso than their musical talent.

Maybe it's me, but I respect a band or artist more for their musical talent and the quality of their songs, than for how much they can shock me onstage. If it's part of your act, then fine, but if the music isn't good, then it doesn't hold my interest. Just my 5 quatloos' worth here.

I agree. I generally could care less about performance, if the music isn't enjoyable. A flashy and shocking stage show seems to detract from the music, or distract the viewer when the music isn't that good. The best performances I have seen have included a band or performer, their instruments, and a mic. Music is primarily meant as a auditory experience, shocking or not. If it is exceptional in regards to auditory sensation, a flashy stage show is not necessary.

Genesis was doing this 25 years ago.

Trite.

ophelia wrote:

Synthpopalooza wrote:Funny thing, I have noticed about much of what gets shoved down our throats by top 40 and commercial radio these days ... it's not about how good the music is, it's the image ... that's why folks like Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears seem to get all the attention they do, because they put on an image that shocks people, moreso than their musical talent.

Maybe it's me, but I respect a band or artist more for their musical talent and the quality of their songs, than for how much they can shock me onstage. If it's part of your act, then fine, but if the music isn't good, then it doesn't hold my interest. Just my 5 quatloos' worth here.

I agree. I generally could care less about performance, if the music isn't enjoyable. A flashy and shocking stage show seems to detract from the music, or distract the viewer when the music isn't that good. The best performances I have seen have included a band or performer, their instruments, and a mic. Music is primarily meant as a auditory experience, shocking or not. If it is exceptional in regards to auditory sensation, a flashy stage show is not necessary.

Well......except for Gwar, but that is more like performance art role playing with music thrown in as an after thought as a medium to actually make money.


Impotent Sea Snakes though, All flash and shock with no decernable musiocal style. I found that to be quite dull.


Voltaire is just one person on a stage with a guitar and he managed to hold my attention quite well.


So I find I must agree with both points quoted here in that Commercial radio does beat songs to death. I am thankfull that they have not discovered my favorites but I am also saddened that the bands I love are then also DOOMED to obscurity.

Rhalin wrote:I've got a perfect suggestion for a surgery type. If you could pull this off on stage, your name would live on longer than Junkie Christ himself.

Three words: Self Performed Lobotomy

It's been done before and is fairly well documented. Granted, if you screw up, there could be some...side effects... but, common, it'd be great!

And just think, if it's successful, you'd find yourself a permanently happy person =)

Suggestion should be taken with a grain of salt and an ounce of sense. The poster is not responsible for any action taken because of this post.

there is actually a specific tool used for early lobotomies. an icepick. it is pretty simple. jab the icepick in towards the back of the temple, and do a swooping motion up and disconnect the frontal lobe from the rest of your brain. go ahead. you don't need your frontal lobe anyway. and if that seems boring then there is always the option of insulin shock therapy. or hell do both.

Or how about just shock therapy?

take some probes and spilt your dick into a cross pattern up your chest, then crucify a hampster to it.