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U*G*L*Y

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 10:26 am
by wilted_roze
Why are some people so ugly?

And why do some people have very low morals?

I guess that's two different topics though so we'll just stick to the 'why are some people so ugly' thing.

I mean, and I DO mean, that some people just aren't cute. At all. And some are just really plain looking. The plain looking ones can actually be fixed up to look nice or decent or however you'd like to put it. But then there are those that are just UGLY. And by ugly I mean nothing that you could do to them could make them any less ugly.

I find that some people who have, say, an ugly smile have very nice eyes. Or some might have ugly eyes yet have a very pretty smile. Some might have a huge nose yet still be cute. Then there are yet those who are just UGLY.

Why? Why are some people cursed with being so ugly?

I'm not saying that ugly people aren't worth knowing, because a lot of times the real ugly people have awesome personalities. I have encountered a couple ugly people here and there that personalities SUCK just as much as their looks. Now that's just sad and uncalled for, but whatever I guess.

I'm starting to understand the meaning of fugly. You guys remember that word? I've been seeing more and more fuglies out there these days.

In conclusion, is it wrong of me to not want to hang out with someone, awesome personality or not, just 'cause they're dam* ugly?

I'm not trying to be funny. I'm really looking for opinions.

As always, thanks.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 11:07 am
by Night_Raven
For me it is a combination of looks and personality that draws me to someone I guess that I weight personality higher than looks becaus someone can look good but you still can't stand to be around them because of their personality. Is it wrong no I wouldn't say it was wrong ....unfair maybe but not wrong

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 1:29 pm
by Cryso lueth Wylthen
Isnt our fault, I mean sheesh, we were born ugly :|

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:40 pm
by Coor
In conclusion, is it wrong of me to not want to hang out with someone, awesome personality or not, just 'cause they're dam* ugly?




I heard that's called being shallow, dear.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 3:38 pm
by The Stormstress
aestheticz can b tricky ... with so many genetic possibilitiez, not every form can b pleazing 2 the eye ...

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 5:57 pm
by roseblood
i have never even considered not hanging out with somebody because they weren't good looking.i was an real ugly kid so maybe thats why.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 6:24 pm
by Codeine Coma
Ugly is always in the eye of the beholder...one says another is ugly, 5 others think they are beautiful. I have never come across a truely ugly person. In my opinion everyone has atleast a couple of redeeming qualities.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 7:23 pm
by karmakaze
Codeine Coma wrote:Ugly is always in the eye of the beholder...one says another is ugly, 5 others think they are beautiful. I have never come across a truely ugly person. In my opinion everyone has atleast a couple of redeeming qualities.


or beerholder for that matter.

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 8:38 pm
by Space Traveler 9
hahaha...

I don't waste my time with the ugly folk. That is, unless I want to make myself appear more attractive, I shal not hang out with the fugly. Sure, people can be cool, but you don't have to look at them. Ick. I've done many nice things for many ugly folks (particularly guys in lying my ass off about how they look). *shudders*

As for guys:
You can be the ugliest motherfucker out there, but if you have a large penis, I want to be your friend :-)

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:50 pm
by wilted_roze
Coor wrote:
In conclusion, is it wrong of me to not want to hang out with someone, awesome personality or not, just 'cause they're dam* ugly?




I heard that's called being shallow, dear.




I am shallow when it comes to who I want to hang out with. But that wasn't the question. Well maybe it was. But either way, thanks.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 2:10 am
by Mistress Eve(L)
I think this thread........
( and the attitude and mind set that challenged someone to write it)






.....is UGLY.




What a shame. And saddening really.



Silly opinions like this.....make people ugly. Not faces.




Now if someone were smelly, I could understand.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 10:15 am
by Cryso lueth Wylthen
Meh, it isn't right that people single out us ugly folk. Isn't my fault my face/body is repulsive. I was born that way, so be nice :evil:

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 10:24 am
by wilted_roze
Mistress Eve(L) wrote:I think this thread........
( and the attitude and mind set that challenged someone to write it)






.....is UGLY.




What a shame. And saddening really.



Silly opinions like this.....make people ugly. Not faces.




Now if someone were smelly, I could understand.



If you didn't want to actually answer my question, why did you bother to respond?

In my opinion people who leave comments like this one must be ugly. I am sorry if I offended you. I never meant to. I will respect your opinion but I think it's only fair that you also respect mine. I think a person has every right in the world to not want to hang out with someone that they think is ugly. If you truthfully thought somone was THAT ugly, would you seriously, and please answer this honestly if you're going to answer at all, would you HONESTLY want to hang out with them? Because I believe the majority of people would not. If I were their best friend from really little and they grew up to be ugly and I suddenly stopped wanting to hang out with them because of it, then I'd see the problem. But if I personally am not comfortable hanging around someone who I think is real ugly, and there is no emotional connection, does that really make my mind set ugly?

And really, it is faces that make people ugly. I understand personalities can also. I do completely agree. But I am only asking a question. I understand that people have different taste. What I might find ugly, someone else would not. Thank you for your opinion. But I'm still strongly leaning toward not wanting to hang out with people who are really THAT ugly. I think the people a person hangs out with should reflect how they want others to view them. If you'd like to debate this, feel free to. Maybe I'm thinking wrong with that. Maybe people DO NOT judge people by who they seem to want to associate with.

If you really wanted to help me with this, you could have just said "No, I do not find it right" instead of degrading me for asking. That I find to be quite ugly.

But again, thank you for taking your time to respond in the first place. I look forward to meeting you and everyone else next month.

~W

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:06 am
by Dead_End
i think what you are trying to say is that if a person has a really kick ass personality but is fugly, then it shouldnt matter cause the personality will outshine that. but if a person just has a mediocre personality and are fugly then what would be the point.
and it is shallow to a point, but you all know you have thought about it at one time or the other.
and its just as shallow to say you would fuck someone just cause they are hot.

and if willow is talking about the same person i think she is, then i completely understand.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:19 am
by wilted_roze
Dead_End wrote:i think what you are trying to say is that if a person has a really kick ass personality but is fugly, then it shouldnt matter cause the personality will outshine that. but if a person just has a mediocre personality and are fugly then what would be the point.
and it is shallow to a point, but you all know you have thought about it at one time or the other.
and its just as shallow to say you would fuck someone just cause they are hot.

and if willow is talking about the same person i think she is, then i completely understand.


Thank you Bax! Actually, I kinda expected CareBear to come to my rescue on this instead, not that you really came to my rescue because you called me shallow, but yeah...

That's true though. Well, no it's not. Even if their personality was the most amazing personality in the world, I still wouldn't want to go out in public with them. Unless they had something to really offer me, like, free cruises around the world or something, I still wouldn't want to hang out with them. Like I said, not in public anyway.

;D

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:28 am
by Dead_End
wilted_roze wrote:
Dead_End wrote:i think what you are trying to say is that if a person has a really kick ass personality but is fugly, then it shouldnt matter cause the personality will outshine that. but if a person just has a mediocre personality and are fugly then what would be the point.
and it is shallow to a point, but you all know you have thought about it at one time or the other.
and its just as shallow to say you would fuck someone just cause they are hot.

and if willow is talking about the same person i think she is, then i completely understand.


Thank you Bax! Actually, I kinda expected CareBear to come to my rescue on this instead, not that you really came to my rescue because you called me shallow, but yeah...

That's true though. Well, no it's not. Even if their personality was the most amazing personality in the world, I still wouldn't want to go out in public with them. Unless they had something to really offer me, like, free cruises around the world or something, I still wouldn't want to hang out with them. Like I said, not in public anyway.

;D



Who the fuck is carebear? and i'm glad you hang out with me cause that means i'm not ugly.
"you funny lady" as someone would say.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 2:53 pm
by Mistress Eve(L)
So I had this huge fucking post and it took so long to post it that KG logged me out and I lost all of it.


Lucky for you.



So here is the cliffs notes version. People will be shit whether they are pretty or ugly.......seperating people into these two categories without further evaluating what kinda person they are leaves you open to some dangerous people.

I made a comment during a show I attended one time a coupla years ago in Atlanta that I regret to this day. The comment flew outta my mouth before I eventhougth about what I had said, but that doesnt make it any better. The comment was something along the lines of me questioning why a few individuals would consider themselves attractive enought o get on stage and do whatever.

The friend that I was with was horrified, and told me how those people were baring their soul doing what they were doing on stage . They lived the live they were performing for us, in their everyday lives. The fact that they had enough courage to come forward and play this intimate part of their lives out for us was just beautiful. I was very ashamed. I am still ashamed that I ever had that thought. I know those people and see them often, and they are the kindest, friendliest people, and for a second I cast them down, becasue they weren't aesthetically pleasing.

On the other side of that coin, I came to a point in my life a while back where I was accepted and befriended many of the "pretty" or cool people.......they all talked about eachother, stabbed eachother in the back, screwed eachother's boyfriends......OUT OF SPITE! Stole, lied, cheated, got in trouble with the law, sqandered their lives and talents away,rinse, wash, repeat........their behavior was ugly, and even uglier that they were all friends and did it to eachother even me. Some of those people, I dont even speak their names in public.

But some came out ok, and they are still my friends.
Maybe you should adopt a higher moral standard for choosing your friends. Dull personalities...I understand.....but they might be there to learn from YOU too.

So to answer your question WHy are people so ugly? I dont know, but I have found that negative quaities in a personality have a LOT to do with it. But that takes time. Why do people have low morals? I dont know that either....probably their upbringing, and if not that then the path or aquaintences they have chosen. Maybe you should consider more important reasons and disqualifiers for friendship, like if this person will respect you and your beliefs (whatever they may be) and respect your other friends. Would this person potentially cause social circle destroying drama? or would work to preserve the friendships no matter how they aquired them. Will this person fullfill your basic needs in a relationship of trust, affection, and support? Or will the friendship be onesided, being only what you can do for that person? Is your presense or consorting with sadi person a pro or a con. Meaning (and although your mother said it, she is right) Is hanging out or befriending a person going to get you in some trouble, or change the way people percieve you, becasue of their behavior. (And its true, people do judge you by who you hang out and associate with). Sounds high school, but even in the real world of jobs and careers, dropping a name isnt always a good thing if people arent upstanding individuals in this community or others in general.

I am not posting this for Hallmark sympathy or to make myself look Lilly white......I have socially questionable lifestyle interests. That doesnt make me morally wrong, or a bad person. the way i treat others makes me, ugly or cute. Socially questionable interests just make me the weird girl at work.


Thanks and sorry about the long post but I am focused today so read and learn!

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 5:52 pm
by X
i think the writer of this post is obviously a slave.

Tell me what is ugly, or what is morally correct?

i think ugly is what you see on mtv, what my friends think is beauty, tiny little tan waists, and blonde spiral curls. I also think ugly is toothless nastiness, but i always see these types of people in groups together...usually an older male and female and about 17 kids....so apparently someone found them attractive.

Morals, eh, i have a conscious....(and i KNOW i spelled that wrong) i don't steal from people i like, and i always tell the truth (even when i lie)

debates like this are the reason Howard Stern is being treated like jesus right now.......and the reason you always see one type of person selling things on tv.

because someone at some point said this is the way it should be....and this is how you should feel, and this is how you will react, and so on and so on.

To attack someone because they say that you are stupid for thinking these things, is well retarded, for an opinion for them to disagree with was never really stated.

How about think with a free will, and don't question how the human brain works....you'll be much better off.





Also, don't vote for bush, because with something like this thread even started.....i just for some reason see you thinking that voting for bush is a good idea......


i dunno...could just be me.........

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 6:13 pm
by junkie christ
i think im so ugly im sexy. that way no matter which you think i am, i can agree with you

beauty is totally in the eye of the (beer)/(be)holder .

i dont care who you think is ugly or attractive, all of you can fuck off with that shit.

as long as im attractive to the person im attracted too...

FUCK THE REST OF THE WORLD.................

Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 7:36 pm
by wilted_roze
X wrote:i think the writer of this post is obviously a slave.

Tell me what is ugly, or what is morally correct?

i think ugly is what you see on mtv, what my friends think is beauty, tiny little tan waists, and blonde spiral curls. I also think ugly is toothless nastiness, but i always see these types of people in groups together...usually an older male and female and about 17 kids....so apparently someone found them attractive.

Morals, eh, i have a conscious....(and i KNOW i spelled that wrong) i don't steal from people i like, and i always tell the truth (even when i lie)

debates like this are the reason Howard Stern is being treated like jesus right now.......and the reason you always see one type of person selling things on tv.

because someone at some point said this is the way it should be....and this is how you should feel, and this is how you will react, and so on and so on.

To attack someone because they say that you are stupid for thinking these things, is well retarded, for an opinion for them to disagree with was never really stated.

How about think with a free will, and don't question how the human brain works....you'll be much better off.





Also, don't vote for bush, because with something like this thread even started.....i just for some reason see you thinking that voting for bush is a good idea......


i dunno...could just be me.........




"To attack someone because they say that you are stupid for thinking these things, is well retarded" ...

Ok, first off, I'm not understanding this comment. Are you calling me retarded or yourself retarded? Or who?

Second off, I don't vote my darling.

And if you want to judge me because of a question I asked, be my guest. But then you're agreeing with me judging you according to your picture? And yes, I have seen it. If you can judge me by a question, than apparently it's possible for me to judge someone just by their looks?

Unless I'm understanding your comment completely wrong. If I have, feel free to IM me on aim and explain to me how I should understand it.

~W

Oh, and ps- I also think ugly is toothless nastiness, but i always see these types of people in groups together ... There's my point right there. Thank you for understanding.