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problemes only Christian Goths have

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:57 am
by immortal_souls
"being called a satanist, even though you wear a gigantic cross."

"searching in vain through the local music store under 'gospel' for xtian goth music" (if u live in s.a it's impossible)".........."having to

explain to your parents that :
- you are not a satanist even though you favour black, black, black and purple .
- the music you listen to actually does have Christian lyrics, even though they might not be able to decipher them
- no, you're not going out clubbing in your goth regalia on sunday night, "you're actually going to church"

- having parents move their little children a few rows further away when you seat yourself.
- when the pastor talks about heathens in his sermon and everyone turns to look at you.
- a new church member attempting to 'convert' you.
- when you are praising God in quiet, reverent worship, your bangles / rings / necklaces etc are loudly jangling .
- getting your tights / stockings hooked on the seat / pew in full view of everybody.
- you ran out of waterproof eyeliner, and after a little bit of a drizz during praise and worship your eyes make you look like frankenstein (or the bride of) [hmm..or robert smith on a bad makeup day!]
- getting up / down the steps (if any) of the church in your heels / huuuge boots (woe betide you if your church has a wooden floor... "clop, clop, bang, thud, clop, clop, bang, thud")
- if you're female : the peopel behind you moving further to your left / right because they can't see over your dramatic hairstyle which you've piled on top of your head with Victorian ringlets.
- if you're male : forgetting to take your carl mcoy black stetson off when you seat yourself, and the ppl behind you asking you to take it off in order to see the lyrics
- going to a church gathering after church, and when you arrive they take off the don francisco cd and put on a Christian country album (it's the only thing they have with a beat) in order to make you feel more comfortable [ok, ok, that is highly unlikely to happen.. in mean, why would they try to make you feel more comfortable?? hehe, just kidding!!]
- visiting a new church, and the security guard follows you from your car to the church because you are "suspiciously dressed"

- another problem could be found in the black lipstick marks that you leave behind on the cup during the 'Lord?s Supper'...
-having your parents try and make you stop wearing black and tell you when you've worn it too much and having others think you're the next Columbine killer. -- Crimson .... (this is sad because those guys were not goth, like the media led everyone to believe)

(When you attend a Christian school) Your teachers are constantly getting on you about your walk with God even though you really are closer to God then all of the non-goths. (I wish my science teacher would realize that) from, Jenna

"Having your church's Preacher and/or Youth Minister come to your school, at lunch, to try and convert you, even though you already are a member of that church." ~Joshann

*Going shopping and trying not to buy something black, but always being drawn to the black items.

* Having "normal" Christians not understand and then, regular Goths not understand!

* Wearing black in the summer!

*I live in a small town in Argentina, and everytime I go out people can't stop starin' at me in a really strange way, Like I'm a vampire or something. I'm probably the only goth in my town. Christian_M

Having your mom go through your room, throw all your black clothes away and all your gothic stuff in the garbage because she thinks you're evil and joining a satanic cult! ~Joshann

all of these are from Kevin:

Catching the church bus in winter whilie wearing your silver cross (brrrr!)

Going to a christian university to visit and half the student body crosses themselves when you pass.

Meeting someone in the parking lot who says to their wife (look the outreach is working), then meeting them again when they find out you are the nursery worker. (he he)

Walking up to pray for someone and have them try to cast something out of you.

Sitting in front of a little kid who says "See mommy.. Van Helsing IS a christian"

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:29 am
by rec|use
boo hoo

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:01 pm
by Hardcoregirl
What I don't get is why you have to bring gothic into christianity. I mean, why would you wear clothing like that to church, its not a club. If I was going to church, yeah I'd wear black and silverr, but outlandish makeup or frankenstein boots, yeah you are asking for persecution by the most persecuting bunch.

I mean I don't dress all out for my job, or when around my family for thanksgivng dinner, or even sitting around the house. I dress up for club events and thats all...doing otherwise is just begging for attention and thats sad.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:43 pm
by gothic_spleen
Hardcoregirl wrote:What I don't get is why you have to bring gothic into christianity. I mean, why would you wear clothing like that to church, its not a club. If I was going to church, yeah I'd wear black and silverr, but outlandish makeup or frankenstein boots, yeah you are asking for persecution by the most persecuting bunch.

I mean I don't dress all out for my job, or when around my family for thanksgivng dinner, or even sitting around the house. I dress up for club events and thats all...doing otherwise is just begging for attention and thats sad.

heh......lol

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:01 pm
by immortal_souls
well, actualy, I think you missunderstod what this post was about, it think it was something that was funny. And there's some things in it not only CHristian Goths deal with, I'm sure there's a few things in there that every one has delt with at one time and can get a good laugh at and say "yeah, I been there, done that, got the t-shirt". If I offended anyone that's not christian then I'm sorry. I just thought there was stuff in there both a christian and non christian would like

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:10 pm
by Hardcoregirl
No one is offended man, I just don't get many of the jokes I guess because of lack of personal experience in church.

Next time just post it in the dumpster, where we put all the silly stuff.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:14 pm
by immortal_souls
Ok, and maybe I'll remove this one and place it there, thanks hardcore girl

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:32 pm
by rec|use
i honestly don't find ANY humor in it

aside from the absurdity that pairing up sub cultures
with christianity
is somehow considered to be a legitimate culture of it's own

i do think it's funny that you can just pair up christianity
with
goth
or
punk
or
black metal
or what ever is convinient for you to follow your faith
and still somehow seem "cool"

all the while throwing to the wayside
the reasons that these types of subcultures were born
and exist

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:43 pm
by ophelia
rec|use wrote:aside from the absurdity that pairing up sub cultures
with christianity
is somehow considered to be a legitimate culture of it's own



Amen.


Pun intended.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:46 pm
by DarkVader
immortal_souls wrote:Ok, and maybe I'll remove this one and place it there, thanks hardcore girl


Don't start the same thread in two places. Only admins get to do that, and then only for good reasons.

If it needs to be moved, we'll move it.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:49 pm
by immortal_souls
ok, I already did that, I'm sorry

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:53 pm
by immortal_souls
rec|use wrote:i honestly don't find ANY humor in it

aside from the absurdity that pairing up sub cultures
with christianity
is somehow considered to be a legitimate culture of it's own

i do think it's funny that you can just pair up christianity
with
goth
or
punk
or
black metal
or what ever is convinient for you to follow your faith
and still somehow seem "cool"

all the while throwing to the wayside
the reasons that these types of subcultures were born
and exist


I'm not doing that to seem cool, I just happen to be Goth and I'm a CHristian ok. this statment I made somewhere else and I'll make it again. Goth means many different things to many different people but this is what it means to me: Goth is beauty. Thoes that are Goth are tender, sensitive, and courageous. Goth is empathy and Goths are the bearers of sorrow and sadness for a lost and dying world. Goth is an expressionist response to the pain and injustice that diminishes every human being. When one suffers, we all suffer. Goth is a gentle and elegantly masochistic answer to a cruel and sadistis society. Goth is chooseing life when death is a seductively tempting option. Goth is art, a means of expressiing the darkest and saddest of all human emotion. Goth is, always has been and always will be as long as people hurt

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:12 pm
by rec|use
goth is a genre of fringe underground music







nuff said


i don't know when it morphed
from like
dark / experimental / punk roots

(christian death (lol imagine that) , alien sex fiend , etc...)


to like
what ever hippie shit you're talking about
i must have missed the memo

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:13 pm
by junkie christ
problemes ???

at least spell the title of your dumb thread correct

the Christian goth postings are killing this forum.
gp start your damn own for that, thats my advice.
KnoxOverLoadedSubCultures.com

im sick of reading the dumbshit
i like Christianity when its used properly, i like the goth shit until someone refers to themself as goth. labels are for people to stupid to get a clue.

these things are parts of culture, and theres about a billion different combinations of culture. pick the ones that define you and call it your culture, dont fucking name them off like ingredients to a mixed drink.
the reason mystery mixed drinks are so good are because the contents are mixed for a unique flavor and you dont want to know the damned parts. derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

anyway,if it shocks you some people are into both, your RETARDED

if you think being into both makes you special you should be in the special olympics

its not like your a member of the christians against christ brigade or something. those fuckers need to post some shit
that would be hillarious
SHUT UP ABOUT IT ALREADY. YOU CAN BE INTO MULTIPLE THINGS THAT MAINSTREAM CULTURE DOESNT THINK GOES TOGETHER
.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:31 pm
by immortal_souls
junkie christ wrote:problemes ???


these things are parts of culture, and theres about a billion different combinations of culture. pick the ones that define you and call it your culture, dont fucking name them off like ingredients to a mixed drink.
the reason mystery mixed drinks are so good are because the contents are mixed for a unique flavor and you dont want to know the damned parts. derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

anyway,if it shocks you some people are into both, your RETARDED

if you think being into both makes you special you should be in the special olympics

its not like your a member of the christians against christ brigade or something. those fuckers need to post some shit
that would be hillarious
SHUT UP ABOUT IT ALREADY. YOU CAN BE INTO MULTIPLE THINGS THAT MAINSTREAM CULTURE DOESNT THINK GOES TOGETHER
.


Yeah, I agree with you, I tend to be a little to definsive at times and instead of saoying I'm a christian goth I'm going to say this I'm a CHristian who's goth nothing super special about me, I' just chose to follow the Christian religion and I am goth

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:38 pm
by rec|use
sorry to hear you've pigeon holled your self like that

maybe you'll grow out of it

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:52 pm
by gothic_spleen
junkie christ wrote:problemes ???

at least spell the title of your dumb thread correct

the Christian goth postings are killing this forum.
gp start your damn own for that, thats my advice.
KnoxOverLoadedSubCultures.com

im sick of reading the dumbshit
i like Christianity when its used properly, i like the goth shit until someone refers to themself as goth. labels are for people to stupid to get a clue.

these things are parts of culture, and theres about a billion different combinations of culture. pick the ones that define you and call it your culture, dont fucking name them off like ingredients to a mixed drink.
the reason mystery mixed drinks are so good are because the contents are mixed for a unique flavor and you dont want to know the damned parts. derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

anyway,if it shocks you some people are into both, your RETARDED

if you think being into both makes you special you should be in the special olympics

its not like your a member of the christians against christ brigade or something. those fuckers need to post some shit
that would be hillarious
SHUT UP ABOUT IT ALREADY. YOU CAN BE INTO MULTIPLE THINGS THAT MAINSTREAM CULTURE DOESNT THINK GOES TOGETHER
.




OUCH.......SNAP!!!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:26 pm
by vertigo25
immortal_souls wrote:... I just happen to be Goth and I'm a CHristian


So you basically can't think for yourself at all?

Man

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:17 pm
by Seraphim
You guys can be totally harsh! You talk about christians judging Goths. I think this is the pot calling the kettle black.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:30 am
by rec|use
boooo hoooooo

welcome to life !!