Any agnostics/atheists in da hizouse?

Lost Traveler · Post by **Lost Traveler** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:34 pm

I think this thread was started to ferrit out the Aithiests and turn them into the local right wing neochristians :shock:

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iblis · Post by **iblis** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:28 pm

Nah. I think that as long as atheists still believe in guns, they have nothing to fear from the neo-xtian armies.

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 5:12 pm

Lost Traveler wrote:I think this thread was started to ferrit out the Aithiests and turn them into the local right wing neochristians .

Uh....no.

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:10 pm

Buttercup wrote:
Lost Traveler wrote:I think this thread was started to ferrit out the Aithiests and turn them into the local right wing neochristians .

Uh....no.

Admit it. You're a Neojunkiechristian! :shock:

Noritha · Post by **Noritha** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:52 am

I think I'll be the only one to say this....

I believe in God. I've been down so many paths in trying to deal with it. Trying not to believe it even, so I could not feel guilty about things...

Then I realized that guilt was people telling me how to deal with God. I thought that was all bullshit and set out to find my own way of relating.

But I've already lost so much faith, it's really really hard for me. It's like this part of me that use to just believe and trust and feel it is dead. So it's something I'm working on.

But as a child I'd see things no one could explain to me, things fighting outside of church houses, things in circles of trees at grave yards. I'd feel things when I was at my grandfather's house near the old graves, I understand someone before they opened their mouth.

I still know when my husband is wide awake, 800 miles from here. Electronics malfunction around me. I know when people die. My grandmother says I'm just in tune like some of the family use to be. I'm related to the family that hosted the Bell Witch.

But Christianity hated me for these things, said I was a sinner. Pagans, however, embraced it. Thought it was just me being myself. But in my heart, I know God. Not saying it's the same way everyone does or that everyone has to follow me. I think everyone has to define that realtionship on their own. And I think being raised in a liberal christian family has me preset to find comfort there. And at my age that comfort is something I seek.

/end rant :oops:

FalseAbsolution · Post by **FalseAbsolution** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:26 am

Noritha, i find a lot of similarities in what you had to say and what i'm doing in my life. Right now i'm setting here not really knowing what i beleive, i have a belief system but i'm not sure about certain things. I too was raised in church, and say things that couldn't be explained and i just knew things that for a 7 year old boy to just know was unexplainable.

At the age of 7 I just knew, couldn't explain it but i knew, that this wasn't my first life. I would hear things that no one else heard, i would blink sometimes and would see images in my mind that always happened if i didn't do something to prevent them. I had a concept that death wasn't the end that wasn't explained in the church, and surly wasn't supported by the church. As i grew things got even more outlandish when i just learned things without reading about them or hearing aobut them. I feel things when i'm in places that a lot of people die, i have seen entities that defy explination that i have searched a lot to find out myths and legends that i know are real because i've seen these things in the night and some during the day, i've done things that I'd rather not talk about without freedom of will.

i've learned a lot since i was a child and i know that there are things out there that can't be explained. I seek to find answers to all the things that i've grown up knowing. I've got a few frieds who are pagens who have said that they just like being around be due to all the energy that i radiate from me. They call me an inborn, saying that magick comes naturally for me they say that i'm gifted with things....... and i'm inclined to believe them because of the things i've done.... but i wouldn't call it magic, i just like to think that the human will is truely strong. I'm just seeking to find out What it is that i beleve that's why i must really thank CD for a religon quiz that he posted, i've been hitting that site reading about religions i didn't know anything about so

Thanks CD for the quiz that told you what your beliefs fit.

MahoganyDawn · Post by **MahoganyDawn** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:30 am

Taoist. With a side order of Quaker. ;o)

Always gotta be difficult.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 10:53 am

I believe in God, too. I believe what Ibbie said, that "God" is a collective unconcious pool of energy and thoughts and ideas and whatnot.

I also believe in the theory that Gods are created by people believing in them.

I don't think the Christian God exists currently because I think most Christians don't actually believe that their God really, tangibly exists. They just say they do.

celticsmith · Post by **celticsmith** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:07 am

The Stormstress wrote:Here's a concept 4 ya... ALL gods/goddesses exist simply due 2 the faith & focused energy of their followers... However, if u do not believe n him/her/them, he/she/they cannot or simply do not impact u... or that, in fact, all gods/godesses may b aspects of the same being... or that it's all far beyond puny mortal comprehension...

Personally, 1 should not discount another's religion as fake, 1 should not force their beliefs on others, & 1 should not look 2 others 4 justification of their own faith; but, then who the fuck asked me...

Me is wif joo

Here an interesting analogy ...

There are the three major religions (MAC, PC, and LINUX)

Scads of minor ones (JAVA, Unix, C++, etc.)

Quite a few ancient religions that have been forgotten or lost in time (Basic, FOTRAN.....Ye gods I hated FORTRAN)

All of these are based upon ancient written text (PUNCHCARDS!!!!)

All of them are attemts to understand a concept that is too vast for the human mind to understand (Binary Code. Windows is around 1.5 GB in size.....imagine trying too look at it in binary code).

And where would the All-Father be in all this?

He is the line between 1 and 0

and where is the Universe Mother?

She is all that is outside of 1 and 0

I just thought of that right now as I was reading Stormstresses post.

Oh great....Now I've gone and started another religion.....AGAIN!!!

FalseAbsolution · Post by **FalseAbsolution** » Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:23 pm

Ohh my god (pardon the pun) CelticSmith I love that analogy.

That's Hilarious!!!!! :rofl: