28 days later

Lost Traveler · Post by **Lost Traveler** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 6:06 pm

Again not my review but just to peek your interest.

abreeskye · Post by **abreeskye** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:06 pm

I'm going to see this saturday before work

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 7:48 pm

my review

story: a lot of zombie movies like this one

imagery: beautiful, everything i long for in life
chaos, apocalypse, being alone with a hot black chick

music: brilliant , soundtrack spans from dark ambient peices (even one from brian eno) to post rock godspeed esque tracks
to some indie rock type moments
no numetal garbage found here

i will see it again
i allready got the soundtrack
and i will buy the movie

Lost Traveler · Post by **Lost Traveler** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:54 am

This movie is worth seeing, its not just a "zombie" movie (the "creatures" aren't really zombies they're people who are in a permenant state of rage induced black out) I've been in this state before so the speed and power of these people make alot of sense (see in other post disc. about slow or fast zombies). There are a few minor technical proplems, (why dont they attack each other, there would be alot more unifected, and they would burn out really really quick (and the farthest stretch of imagination they might make it 2 wks), even the brits have guns they would just be in the form of rifles and shotguns) But then thats not what this story is about, its about the human factor, what is acceptable for survival? what is survival? and as always in this life our truest enemy (even in a world where humanity has gone trueley psyco) is our fellow normal humanbeings.

The first part of this movie has some very quiet moments at which point the audience or even traffic outside become a distraction. Ive heard some complaints about the cinematography, they maybe valid but I enjoyed most of it. And for you classic zombie fans there might not be enough zombie killing (and no brain eating). This is told in a Dawn of the dead style storie but it is an omega man base plot. Very much worth seeing

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:59 pm

not all zombie movies are brain eaters back from the dead my friend

the villians were zombies
and there are several other zombie flicks like this one

Caustic · Post by **Caustic** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:07 am

This movie needs to go to cock. Fucking horrible.

"Hi. We're kind of running from people who aren't zombies because, you know, they're not dead. But we'll do it really slowly while going into all of the dark places without any reason. And then we'll have the bad military men threaten to rape our women, and I, Jim, who has had my ass handed to me since I stumbled out of the hospital and forgot to look for clothing in this deserted world, will suddenly save the women folk, because that's what I, as The Man, must do. And we all live happily ever after, the end."

Not zombies. Zombies are dead and then come back. These people? No, they're really alive. The fact that when you shoot them and they die should be a hint that they're not the undead. Because you're making them dead. Clearly not zombies.

Also, clearly, boring. Did I blink and miss the suspense? The gore? The action? Only interesting thing was seeing thumbs in eyes. Everything else, those other 98 or 1,037 minutes, however fucking drawn out this film was, were just... torturous.

P.S. Ha ha, England! You fucking ponces! That's what you get for not allowing civilians to own firearms! In America, we'd have shot all those rabid assholes and put down their little Rage Riots within hours. Nobody, and I mean nobody, in Los Angeles would have ever been infected.

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:33 pm

you really should do some research on your horror

AGAIN
not all zombies are people back from the dead

in a lot of zombie flicks you can be alive and get bit
and by all cases still be alive
but now you are also a zombie

you're basing your'e entire zombie arguement from what appears to be george ramero's version of zombies

the movie was excellent
from a horror standpoint it was great
the imagery was beautiful
and the soundtrack is beyond words
(brian eno's on it and that says it all)

the underlying socio-political statements also made this movie for me

Caustic · Post by **Caustic** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:46 pm

rec|use wrote:not all zombies are people back from the dead

You're right. Some zombies like this movie. I can think of no dead person who would enjoy this tripe.

in a lot of zombie flicks you can be alive and get bit
and by all cases still be alive
but now you are also a zombie

Yeah, see, that doesn't strike me as very zombie-like either. Until you're braindead, you're not a zombie. You're some sort of idiot-spawn when you're bitten by a zombie, sure, but I still don't accept it as a true, honest to God zombie.

you're basing your'e entire zombie arguement from what appears to be george ramero's version of zombies

I'm sorry. You're right. George Romero was the only person to think that zombies had to be dead before returning. I mean, the Italians never had dead zombies, nor did the Japanese, or even those wacky, low-budget Americans. Curse you, Romero, for your accurate zombie portrayal!

the movie was excellent

What movie did you actually see?

from a horror standpoint it was great

There wasn't any horror. There were angry monkeys, some angry people, some spitting of blood, a few gunshots, and one thorough eye-gouging. None of that equates to horror in my book, and when it's dragged out so slowly across a road-trip type film, it gets really boring, really fast.

the imagery was beautiful

"Oh, look! There's a dark house! And another dark space! But wait! This darkened area has a rabid man in it! And now we're back outside watching the taxi drive around. Whee! Night time, and now we sit around and tell spooky stories!"

Did I miss the beauty? Did I nod off at some point and miss 30 seconds of actual quality? Fuck this film. If you want beauty, go rent Solaris or Lola Rennt for actually, honestly beautiful framing, color palettes, editing, pacing, etc. The only technical detail to stand out of 28 Days Later was the choice for digital cameras, which added a nice, grainy look. Which was squandered by every other misstep the film made.

and the soundtrack is beyond words
(brian eno's on it and that says it all)

Brian Eno should be ashamed for having his name attached to this film. Outside of that one piece, which I vaguely recognized and is the only reason why I noticed it, everything else is purely background, doing nothing to enhance the mood, and was worthless.

the underlying socio-political statements also made this movie for me

What underlying socio-political statements? "Angry people are bad!"? "England sucks so we should quarantine it!"? "Don't fuck with me, man, because I'll get angry, and you wouldn't like me when I'm angry!"

...

Wait, sorry, no. The last one was from The Hulk, which was infinitely better than this cheap schlock.

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 10:26 pm

well i guess the whole thing would have been a lot better if they put some faux industrial ( ie sister machine gun) soundtrack over a bunch of hollywood explosions and fake blood

Oh, look! There's a dark house! And another dark space! But wait! This darkened area has a rabid man in it! And now we're back outside watching the taxi drive around. Whee! Night time, and now we sit around and tell spooky stories!"

first off i'm not goth so this whole banter was useless
i was actually talking more about the first portion of the movie when he wakes up
and there is nothing but a post apocalyptic landscape

What underlying socio-political statements? "Angry people are bad!"?

angry people are bad is what the movie is about at face value
that wouldnt be "underlying" would it

man's ultimate goal is to satisfy very basic needs
even if it means turning his back on established rules and morality
esp in extreme circumstances
everyone in the movie used everyone else for some type of personal gain and when someone got infected
no matter how close they were to these individuals
they were eliminated

as for your movie links
nice try
but if you wanna talk about zombie films
start with
lucio fulci
he's italian
i thought for sure you would have posted that link instead of that shit film cemetary man

and btw
i do really enjoy the george ramero films
a gread deal in fact
but there's more out there
that was the point of the original post
you have the internet
use it

Caustic · Post by **Caustic** » Sat Aug 16, 2003 11:30 pm

rec|use wrote:well i guess the whole thing would have been a lot better if they put some faux industrial ( ie sister machine gun) soundtrack over a bunch of hollywood explosions and fake blood

That's not such a horrible idea, actually. Maybe I should go rent Resident Evil to wash the filth of 28 Days Later from my psyche.

Oh, look! There's a dark house! And another dark space! But wait! This darkened area has a rabid man in it! And now we're back outside watching the taxi drive around. Whee! Night time, and now we sit around and tell spooky stories!"

first off i'm not goth so this whole banter was useless
i was actually talking more about the first portion of the movie when he wakes up
and there is nothing but a post apocalyptic landscape

Goth, not Goth, it doesn't change the fact that that's what happened in the movie. Stereotypes aside, they ran around outside, then inside, then outside, then inside, then outside, then inside, and it was all dreadfully dull and none of it had any feeling to it, nor did any of the characters show themselves to have any sense of self-survival by avoiding the darkened area where the infected lived; rather, they purposefully ran toward these areas like the simpletons they are.

Secondly, that was boring post-apocalyptic. The city was positively sterile. There were only, what, three cars in the roads? Did everyone else have time to drive home and park in their garages? They seemed to, because only one moving vehicle is seen in the film. The main characters were too ignorant to go to a dealership, take keys, and loot a car.

You want quality post-apocalyptic? Go rent The Omega Man. The first five minutes of Charleton Heston's "end of the world" movie kicks all of 28 Days Later's ass, and does so in a manner consistent the entire way through, without any idiot shenanigans. Cars are abandoned, stores are looted, and it feels like the world is actually empty, rather than looking at a London where the vehicles are magically Photoshopped out of existence.

angry people are bad is what the movie is about at face value that wouldnt be "underlying" would it

It doesn't get any deeper. I mean...

man's ultimate goal is to satisfy very basic needs
even if it means turning his back on established rules and morality
esp in extreme circumstances
everyone in the movie used everyone else for some type of personal gain and when someone got infected
no matter how close they were to these individuals
they were eliminated

How can you consider man acting like man to be "underlying"? If it's our "ultimate goal," then it supercedes everything else and can't possibly be an "underlying" concept.

"Even if it means turning..." Bloody Hell. If I'm in extreme circumstances where I'm the last man on earth, there aren't any rules or morality. They're gone. Deader than they are now. I'm already an amoralist, and once the moralists are taken care of, it doesn't matter what I do, because I'm the last person alive.

Unfortunately, Jimmy (that's what I'm calling the guy who did the eye gouging; he may have had a real name, but it didn't register) isn't the last person, and that doesn't make you any less wrong. When we meet the black chick/white guy duo at the beginning, who are they using? Nobody. Nobody. They're risking their ass for Jimmy. And our poor white guy without a name still gets murdered. I don't recall the black chick doing much abusing of Jimmy, nor the little girl taking advantage of anyone.

In fact, Jimmy didn't use anybody. The only people who used other people were some of the soldiers and Frank the Taxi Man. And so most of them died. Big deal. Was it because they were using people? Because people who weren't using people died as well.

You're honestly not making any sense. Because, as it stands, the people die rather arbitrarily, and nobody's killed because they are/are not specifically abusive.

but if you wanna talk about zombie films
start with
lucio fulci
he's italian

Yeah. I could. But I don't need to. Because we're talking about 28 Days Later and not actual zombie films.

i thought for sure you would have posted that link instead of that shit film cemetary man

Yeah? Well, your movie's poop.

We could resort to that, or you could try to defend the cinematography (which, I notice, you didn't, really), or the use of the score (which, I notice, you didn't, really), or the story (which, really, you can't, since all of the people in the film are retards)...

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:51 am

yeah i saw omega man
heston is a fucking dumb fuck and his acting is for shit
thanks for the suggestion anyway

go rent resident evil and revel in watered down mediocracy

Donal · Post by **Donal** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 2:31 am

What is mediocracy? A form of government in which Danny Boyle rules?

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Sun Aug 17, 2003 2:32 am

"We could resort to that, or you could try to defend the cinematography (which, I notice, you didn't, really), or the use of the score (which, I notice, you didn't, really), or the story (which, really, you can't, since all of the people in the film are retards"

then you obviously didnt read my posts
and i'll explain again

first the cinematography and i'll preface by saying i'm not a cinematographer or a film student
however the use of digital video was great
as i said before i really liked the location shots despite how many fucking cars were on the street
in fact i liked it more being without all the cars etc..
because it seemed even more desolate

secondly the score
instead of inserting shit nu-metal or faux electronic industrial acts
on the soundtrack
i found it more appealing that they used the post rock type soundscapes
and the one track by brian eno
the climax of the movie in the base could have easily taken the safe route with some dumb ass agro-techno song or some no talent nu-metal band
but instead the climax of the movie is brought out beautifully with the use of the dynamic postrock tracks that almost sound like godspeed or labradford

the story is typical and i wouldnt want it any other way
the people in movies dont do the obvious shit
becuase the movie would be over in 30 mins instead of 2 hours
its an escape from reality
thats why they do stupid shit for an hour and half
then win at the end by some stroke of genius
i find it especially redundant yet entertaining that i have to waste my time explaining this to you as well

as far as the statements made in the movie
i dont find it especially important to have to explain these to you
either you get it or you dont
and it's pretty obvious that you consistantly take things at face value rather than examining them

if you can't see that the whole movie is consitant with the laws of nature and the self corruption (or liberation) of man made laws and morality, then i dont know really how to explain it any further
i found it all fairly obvious myself
it's all natural order from chaos

and i still say its zombie flick
because as i've i said three times now
not every zombie movie is a return from the grave braineater zombie film
some are toxic
some are infectious and can simply infect the living
some are voodoo/witchcraft etc..

and face it
you dont know that those people aren't dead anyway
the infection could kill you and then you return as a zombie
there isnt one place in the movie that could disprove that theory
there is obviously a metamorphosis that occurs when something gets infected in the film
who's to say they dont die

i found it to be one of the better horror flicks as of late
considering the shit that gets pumped out now days
ie: the scream series , i know what you did , etc...

prehaps not one of the best films ever
but certainly refreshing and inspiring that good horror films can still be made

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