play my song at sanctus please?

milkrain · Post by **milkrain** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:40 pm

Hello,

I just arranged a new piece of music with a nice bumping part in the center that should be popular on the dance floor. I was hoping maybe it could be considered for Sanctus? If you guys have any suggestions or requests to add to the song, I could probably write it in before the next one.

Thanks for listening

http://ecdm.morell-thule.net/milkrain_mudpole.mp3

(Right click, save as)

Coor · Post by **Coor** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:59 pm

Wow, its a bit early. For future referance you might want to send your work to the admn's email.

admin@knoxgothic.com

If that's not right I'm sure I'll be corrected within the next 10 minutes.

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:54 pm

thats why they put up a request thread...

Post by **Arkady** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:57 pm

I listened to the track. Do you want constructive criticism?

Codeine Coma · Post by **Codeine Coma** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:23 pm

http://ecdm.morell-thule.net/milkrain_mudpole.mp3

LMFAO!!!!!!!! :roofle:

That is phucking brilliant! :lol:

X · Post by X » Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:06 pm

You need better recording equipment.

milkrain · Post by **milkrain** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:47 pm

thanks for all the kind words, and yes, critisism would be greatly appreciated

milkrain · Post by **milkrain** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:00 pm

Your funny image is also appreciated

milkrain · Post by **milkrain** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:02 pm

it's always awkward when someone deletes a post and makes you look like you're talking to yourself

Post by **Arkady** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:23 pm

Arkady wrote:I listened to the track. Do you want constructive criticism?

milkrain wrote:thanks for all the kind words, and yes, critisism would be greatly appreciated

Ok. Well, here's what I thought. While the over all concept is basically well constructed and quite creative (reminds me of some of mike patton's work) the mix is very muddy which drasticly takes the listener's attention away from the music itself.

The sounds are walking all over each other sonicly. Try creating pockets for each sounds frequency in the mix. Also, you might try to tweak the eq a bit more and use some frequency dependant compression on the bass itself. That will help a lot. Also, don't mix the bass hot when multi-tracking. You can get a much cleaner result if you eq for prominent bass atfter the mix has been rendered into a single stereo track.

It seems to me need that the vocals to be much higher in the mix. As the focus of attention when they are present in the song, it's important to not bury them in the mix.

If that's you on guitar, it's obvious you have some skill however, your solos are sloppy. Try slowing it down a bit and working on nailing each note of the licks that make up the solo. The graduly speed up to tempo. It will sound way more professional that way.

Post by **Bone** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 1:59 am

I would agree on all accounts with Arkady as to the sound quality of the song. Further constructive critz can only be given for what your intention is for the piece. ie...As an abstract sound piece... Intresting. As a dancefloor hit... not likely... Only things I could constructively add, I would need more info about the direction you are wanting.

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:11 am

an abstract sound piece...

what was abstract about it
it's pretty westernized and formula based
other than the vox
i don't see the mike patton comment
it's over all pretty bland and poorly produced

milkrain · Post by **milkrain** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:00 pm

thanks for the input.

i realized that singing isn't my thing and neither is distorted guitar. I tried with a new song, maybe this time it is cleaner sounding. I also took the advice to slow down the playing.Does the recording sound more professional in this?

http://ecdm.silversparkles.net/Alf-SomeHamstersSurf.mp3

Codeine Coma · Post by **Codeine Coma** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 10:31 pm

The second song I felt had more heart into it. I like what you did in verse two...it totally works for me. I did sense some aggitation with the piece towards the last couple of bars after the refrain in the song. Was it ment to be that way? I am also wondering what cord structure you used during that track? It was very interesting. Silence has never sounded better. :roll:

I am still surprized of the lack of a person shouting "Tool Rocks!" or "Lick Balls Goths" at the top of thier lungs somewhere in the track. I guess that can always wait until your new SN.

Rock on! ;-)

NewlyRisenDead · Post by **NewlyRisenDead** » Mon Apr 26, 2004 11:33 pm

Regarding the first one on top of what else was added, I would say considering layering the tracks to beef up the music some. With that lead, I would build up to that fast part before you just strait jump into it, it sorta throws you off there listening to it. Also consider layering the rhythm guitar under the lead part, and just bringing the lead up higher.

milkrain · Post by **milkrain** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:59 am

thanks for the ideas. I will try doubling the rhythm to beef it up, but i'm afraid it'll be hard to synch since i'm basically closing my eyes and pretending to have a seisure when i pick the fast parts. Could you elaborate on what you mean about where the piece needs a lead-in to the fastest part? I'm not sure which section you're talking about.

the aggitation was due to me playing a $60 strat copy with mile high action that was cutting my fingers. The chord structure is 1 b2 b3 starting in F with the leads being your basic miserlou scale starting on D or C and ascending sporatically.

thanks again for your comments

Coor · Post by **Coor** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:44 am

Just don't get discouraged. Keeo working and things will get better.

Post by **DarkVader** » Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:10 am

I'm going to have to disagree with Coor here.

Get discouraged. Go away. Stay away.

Congradulations, Alf, you're banned again.