Our Current Position... American Politics and History

[CrimeCore]

But media tells me to find a skinny little submissive woman. And I have sided with my mother on this one. Thank God.

Wait... so are you implying that "skinny little submissive women" are not worth dating? Are you just going to let "skinny little submissive women" be dated by jerks and losers, then?

I mean, come on, man. If you respect all women, respect that some women are skinny and/or submissive. It takes all kinds to make a world. Perhaps if you wouldn't avoid such girls, you could help them to become fat and arrogant!

Actually what I was implying that I don't feel the need to dominate my lover and that there's no preference as to big or small with me. I was also implying that millions
of teenage girls starve themselves and throw up after every meal just because they're scared to be fat. Because cruel people make fun of them for so.
Probably the kind of people that have no problem with being complete self absorbed dickheads and laugh about it because all they care about are themselves.

How does it complicate anything? You buy, you sell, you trade. You work hard and get what you deserve, most of the time. It's the best system you're going to get.

I can present you with a couple complications caused by capitalism. You can’t get to work without a car…and you can’t have a car without having money..and you can’t have money without a job…sounds pretty FUCKED up to me. Also…Health insurance. You can’t have it unless you have a job that provides it “for a costâ€

[Russo]

[quote="CrimeCore"]

[quote="Russo"]I can present you with a couple complications caused by capitalism. You can’t get to work without a car…and you can’t have a car without having money..and you can’t have money without a job…sounds pretty FUCKED up to me. Also…Health insurance. You can’t have it unless you have a job that provides it “for a costâ€

[JaNell]

In my opinion (which means I have no interest in arguing, just in saying what I think), anarchism would ultimately only serve the needs of the few: whomever is willing to kill, steal, rape, and murder to please themselves.
Anarchism leaves too many groups of people too vulnerable: children, the elderly, pacifists, pregnant women, physically handicapped, and so on. I'd have no problems shooting someone's sorry ass for stealing my kid's food, but I don't think that being able to do that with impunity would constitute a better life.
I also am frightened by the naiveté of the whole "well, if people sell tainted food then other people will stop buying from them". Yep, eventually, but how many people will die before that happens? That's not acceptable to me.
Addressing the food issue: vegetarianism is not universally healthy.
Another thought: if we had an anarchistic society, there would be many places around the world where the local produce would be limited and animal protein would be (and has been, historically) needed to round out the diet. The incredibly diverse diet that modern vegetarians depend on is only possible because of modern transportation, international trade, and imposed quality standards. If you doubt that, research what native foods grow in this area; a hard look at local native American diet way back when, and the teeth and malnutrition problems they often suffered, will be an eye opener. Also read up on the problems with various health supplements and food items coming out of unregulated countries.

[tat2jay]

we have canines and insisors for a reason, ripping and tearing flesh
if you want to be a veggie or a vegan, power to you, thats wonderful and healthy for you. if i want to rip into some flesh, kudos to me, but dont tell me its healthier one way or the other, you show me a study that says its healthy to drink your urine and live on corn and ill show you one that says drinking urine will make you bleed and corn gives you cancer -

[Thrall]

um...

when did this leave off political and move on to water sports?

[tat2jay]

um...

when did this leave off political and move on to water sports?

when i finally decided to post the only thing i feel comfortable talking about in public that had anything to do with the previous post - sorry, i will shut up again

[4X541N7]

Oh yeah..and trevor…since you like doctoring up what other people say..

It’s easy to be a philosopher, when you spike your hair with gel that probably contains the bones of dead animals, and wear a long fashionable coat and smoke cloves.

Ok...First...I never once misquoted you...In fact...I have read everything you have posted intently...& have debated only the things that you have brought up...If you think that you are proving a point by this^....Then you are even more juvinile than I thought...What I said was..."It's easy to be a philosopher...When you just make shit up"...I guess you just did nothing, but prove my point...Thank you...

And Capitalism isn’t a struggle. You have to try hard son. You have to be the best son. You have to make lots of money and be happy. If you don’t finish high school and college then you’re nothing and never will be. Hm…sounds like struggle to me. Be on top because who’s on top now will try hard to keep you on the bottom. Struggle.

Yes, capitalism is a struggle...But atleast it makes sense to the farest reaches of the spectrum...It works on both ends...It's not nieve...Or immature...It works as well as you let it...I <3 capitolism, to be honest...The only thing that I've found better is Socialism...

Do you have a damn thing to back this up?...How in the hell, would Industry be less harmful to the planet?...Would it lie in the fact that there would be no real Government to speak of, there for, no real regulations?...Would that be somewhere in you answer...Side note, if you add anything about regulations in your answer...You just contridicted everything you have tried to state, thus far...

Well….you’ve got everything figured out.
First off. There will be no regulations. But if someone eats food that poisons them and they get sick. People will find out and won’t eat there anymore. And if that person isn’t feeding anyone then they won’t receive goods to cook food with. Situation solved with no order at all. Simply people aren’t providing him with materials because he’s making people sick. And regardless of this government’s regulations…people still get sick from food so don’t even try to say that the regulations are there to make sure it doesn’t happen in the first place. And if an industry releases too much pollution they too will not be supplied with goods.

Ok...This doesn't make a damn bit of sense...Who's gonna supply them...I think you are getting confused with Communism...Second, who regulates the media?...Is there a media?...Well...There has to be someone in charge if there is...& if not...How will people know that it's polluting?...

Oh and by the way. Because you admit you’re a mean son of a bitch. Doesn’t make it ok.

What is 'OK'?

[karmakaze]

capitolism helps sort out the lazy people.

i am sorry, i am not going to function well working for the same payoff as someone else who is sitting on there ass doing nothing. this is one of the major downfalls of communism and anarchy. it makes most people lazy.

[4X541N7]

capitolism helps sort out the lazy people.

i am sorry, i am not going to function well working for the same payoff as someone else who is sitting on there ass doing nothing. this is one of the major downfalls of communism and anarchy. it makes most people lazy.

I'm lazy & selfish...But I'm inguinious & manipulative, too...I <3 Capitolism...

[Jack]

Actually what I was implying that I don't feel the need to dominate my lover.

So you prefer to be dominated?

there's no preference as to big or small with me.

I fail to see how not having standards is supposed to be a virtue.

I was also implying that millions
of teenage girls starve themselves and throw up after every meal just because they're scared to be fat.

...and there are just as many girls and women who eat extremely unhealthily because they "just don't give a fuck" and are "proud" of being fat. While both situations are bad, it's probably better to throw up too much than it is to eat too much. Nobody ever got heart disease or diabetes from throwing up their IHOP.

I can present you with a couple complications caused by capitalism. You can’t get to work without a car…

That's not a problem of capitalism, you doofus! It's just poor urban planning! People don't need cars in New York.

[Matthew]

Anarchy is truly an ideal of the few, as there will always be those who wish to hurt others, or take advantage of them. The Id is not so tame a beast we could let society run with it freely.

But that is not to say that government is the answer. Government is the necissary evil to combat the worst things about anarchy, but how necssisary it is seems to be the political hot point of this era.

It is my firm belief, again, that governance has three puproses to serve, and should serve them in simple, black and white ways. These purposes are
Protect Freedom of Citizens
Protect Life of Citizens
Protect Property of Citizens

Now, when the constitution of the states was first ratified, these three things were the only things the constitution sought to accomplish, but it did so with inequality. Over time, these protections were granted to all people, regardless of sex and race

But with that, we got the sour returns of a large governemnt, taking on too much responsibility

Is a big government controlling media, thought, and soul an evil? Certainly.

Is anarchy the answer? Certainly not.

But its alot closer to how things worked before. Governance is a necsissary evil, the goal is to accomplish the goals of governance with as little of it as possible.

At least, thats how i see it.

[Matthew]

and to reinforce something...

You claim you want anarchy, but are an enemy of capitalism?


The difference between socialism and capitalism is a matter of control.

On the far left, you have a completley socialist system, regulated to its core. This is the most controlled economy in the world. You give it to big brother, and big brother gives you what you need. This is not anarchy, but is instead its inverse: Large, Controlling fiscal government

Capitalism is the other side, largley unchecked by governing bodies. you see, capitalism is the natural way of the human mind when dealing with matters of trade. It is natural to view things that you have earned as property. In short, the more capitalist the nation is, the less control is placed on fiscal issues.

So, where exactly do you lie? Im a small governent capitalist, personally.

[Zeo]

I would defend capitalism against unarmed, malnourished Christian Anarchists any day of the week.

[Russo]

I would defend capitalism against unarmed, malnourished Christian Anarchists any day of the week.

LOL I *heart* you.

[rec|use]

man you guys are thinking about this way to hard
just have a beer and relax

[4X541N7]

I would defend capitalism against unarmed, malnourished Christian Anarchists any day of the week.

Jake....I love you...If may just be the morphine talkin'....But I doooooooo.........

[iblis]

I was also implying that millions
of teenage girls starve themselves and throw up after every meal just because they're scared to be fat.

...and there are just as many girls and women who eat extremely unhealthily because they "just don't give a fuck" and are "proud" of being fat. While both situations are bad, it's probably better to throw up too much than it is to eat too much. Nobody ever got heart disease or diabetes from throwing up their IHOP.

9 out of 10 Surgeon Generals say, "Vomiting three times a day keeps the cardiologists away, you fat fucks!"

I can present you with a couple complications caused by capitalism. You can’t get to work without a car…

That's not a problem of capitalism, you doofus! It's just poor urban planning! People don't need cars in New York.

Not to mention, it is possible to walk 10-15 miles to work every day. It's not fun, but it's entirely possible. And frankly, I've seen a shitload of morbidly obese people who would benefit from said walks. To be honest, aside from a bit of bad weather, I liked those walks to and from work. It gave me lots of time to listen to music, think, and really pay attention to things around me.

As for the vegetarian / vegan issue.. well, I for one, require a bit of balance in my diet. Meat is necessary to maintain that balance. Otherwise, I start viewing people as food - and I'm not particularly fond of pork.

[4X541N7]

I can present you with a couple complications caused by capitalism. You can’t get to work without a car…

That's not a problem of capitalism, you doofus! It's just poor urban planning! People don't need cars in New York.

Not to mention, it is possible to walk 10-15 miles to work every day. It's not fun, but it's entirely possible. And frankly, I've seen a shitload of morbidly obese people who would benefit from said walks. To be honest, aside from a bit of bad weather, I liked those walks to and from work. It gave me lots of time to listen to music, think, and really pay attention to things around me.

No it's not...You would die...I tried it once...Barely survived...That's why I drive my Marine-Killin', Gas-Guzzling Urban Assault Vehical...If I'm traveling more than a block...

[CrimeCore]

One last thing.

When capitalism comes into to town and make the poor poorer and the rich richer (obviously I'm talking about other countries) just hope you aren't poor.

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I'm way past done on this post... I'll send out a few pm's and such..but fuck...really....i have nothing to learn from your posts

Oh and haven't I already said that I don't believe in organized religion...because I THINK I FUCKEN DID. because some rich ass preacher told me that animals are put here for me to eat doesn't mean I'll take advantage of them. Stop trying to look so awesome just because you deny spirituality. fuck off.

OH yeah and by the way. I eat plenty of soy so I'm far from malnutrition. smart ass.


Look at a bright and beautiful future --->

[4X541N7]

Look at a bright and beautiful future --->

I think this is where all of us where heading, too...
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