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Russo · Post by **Russo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:34 pm

gothic_spleen wrote:what is "Goth type " music? I mean i listen to combichrist, the last dance, ect......that considered goth?

No.

And can I ask (I'm not trying to be snarky, I just want to know), why are you on this board if you don't know what goth music is?

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:54 pm

Russo wrote:
gothic_spleen wrote:what is "Goth type " music? I mean i listen to combichrist, the last dance, ect......that considered goth?

No.

And can I ask (I'm not trying to be snarky, I just want to know), why are you on this board if you don't know what goth music is?

lol, probably because no three people can agree as to what the fuck it is.

Nigredo · Post by **Nigredo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:03 pm

It don't matter if you like or not. The Cruxshadows has a vast number of fans. As for me, if I am spinnig at TEMPLE I will play them.

Everybody has different tastes in music.

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:44 pm

Nigredo wrote:Everybody has different tastes in music.

true. most are just inferior to my own.

:mrgreen:

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:22 pm

iblis wrote:
Russo wrote:
gothic_spleen wrote:what is "Goth type " music? I mean i listen to combichrist, the last dance, ect......that considered goth?

No.

And can I ask (I'm not trying to be snarky, I just want to know), why are you on this board if you don't know what goth music is?

lol, probably because no three people can agree as to what the fuck it is.

/signed
agree completely
but some peoples answer is better than others

It don't matter if you like or not. The Cruxshadows has a vast number of fans. As for me, if I am spinnig at TEMPLE I will play them. Everybody has different tastes in music.

a vast number of fans? no. they have a small but dedicated following.
vast fans? no.
but different strokes for different folks.
bare in mind lots of people stick fingers in their ass when they masturbate. some people wont use condoms. some people mix everclear with jack daniels (guilty).
but just because you can have an opinion or a taste DOES NOT make it a good idea.

Russo · Post by **Russo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:35 pm

iblis wrote:
Russo wrote:
gothic_spleen wrote:what is "Goth type " music? I mean i listen to combichrist, the last dance, ect......that considered goth?

No.

And can I ask (I'm not trying to be snarky, I just want to know), why are you on this board if you don't know what goth music is?

lol, probably because no three people can agree as to what the fuck it is.

True, but most of us can come to a broad consensus of what it encompasses, and what artists could/could not be classified in the genre.

*actually, let me edit that to add that I don't think "goth" music even exists any more. Most music made after the mid-80's and classified as "goth" can more realistically be classified as "whiny crap."

elasticwings · Post by **elasticwings** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:03 pm

Nigredo wrote:It don't matter if you like or not. The Cruxshadows has a vast number of fans. As for me, if I am spinnig at TEMPLE I will play them.

Everybody has different tastes in music.

Since when are you allowed to play music based on your own tastes at Temple? I thought that was only allowed in the beginning. From what I heard last weekend, I don't think I will be talked into making the mistake of wasting my Saturday there again.

gothic_spleen · Post by **gothic_spleen** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:53 pm

Russo wrote:
iblis wrote:
Russo wrote:
gothic_spleen wrote:what is "Goth type " music? I mean i listen to combichrist, the last dance, ect......that considered goth?

No.

And can I ask (I'm not trying to be snarky, I just want to know), why are you on this board if you don't know what goth music is?

lol, probably because no three people can agree as to what the fuck it is.

True, but most of us can come to a broad consensus of what it encompasses, and what artists could/could not be classified in the genre.

*actually, let me edit that to add that I don't think "goth" music even exists any more. Most music made after the mid-80's and classified as "goth" can more realistically be classified as "whiny crap."

thanx russo, i was attempting to make a sarcastic comment, failed miserably.....your point is what i was talking about.... :twisted:

Zeo · Post by **Zeo** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:34 pm

Bauhaus, Siouxsie and other "post-punk" from the early 80's = gothic rock.

Cruxshadows and Clan of Xymox is under the umbrella of darkwave neo/pseudo goth darkwave/staple hand to forehead music.

And yes, everybody has their own taste in music.
There is really not anyone in this town besides myself and Rue (that we know of) who are into aggrotech/terror ebm like Combichrist, Hocico, Psyclon Nine and the like, and nobody dances to that at clubs in Knoxville either. That is probably because they have never been exposed to it.
I go out to clubs to drink, socialize and hear new music, not necessarily to dance. But if I dig the music being played, yeah, I'll probably end up dance to it at some point.

Not to step on toes or piss anyone off, but I have be honest.
It's really disappointing that the music played at the one club in Knoxvile anymore seems to be progressively going down-hill and appealing to none other than the clueless masses of the 94.3 crowd. That's one reason we donâ€™t go out as much as we used to.
At this point, and as much as I loath them, I would welcome hearing a new Cruxshadows song played at an 'alternative dance night' Instead of the top-40's pop-rock shit that is overplayed on the radio as it is. If I wanted that I might as well go to the Red Iguana.

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:44 pm

I was gonna say Bauhaus and Siouxsie are the only gothic rock bands ever...hehehe.

gothic_spleen · Post by **gothic_spleen** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:22 pm

Hardcoregirl wrote:I was gonna say Bauhaus and Siouxsie are the only gothic rock bands ever...hehehe.

Question, is dead can dance classified as goth, or folk, or classical....

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:16 pm

Zeo wrote:Bauhaus, Siouxsie and other "post-punk" from the early 80's = gothic rock.

Cruxshadows and Clan of Xymox is under the umbrella of darkwave neo/pseudo goth darkwave/staple hand to forehead music.

And yes, everybody has their own taste in music.
There is really not anyone in this town besides myself and Rue (that we know of) who are into aggrotech/terror ebm like Combichrist, Hocico, Psyclon Nine and the like, and nobody dances to that at clubs in Knoxville either.

do the band(s) provide samples online? if so, gimme links, damn it. i'm lazy tonight.

for that matter, there've been a lot of fucked up bands/songs that i've liked, many of whom i'd never even thought of plugging into a google search. in that regard, i have to say i really miss caustic's spinning, regardless of the toes he's stepped on. dude has an ear, and a fucking spider-sense for the "unknown soldiers" of good music.

Not to step on toes or piss anyone off, but I have be honest.

if you were anything else, i would disrespect you.

paintedbird · Post by **paintedbird** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:20 am

Hardcoregirl wrote:I was gonna say Bauhaus and Siouxsie are the only gothic rock bands ever...hehehe.

What about Sisters of Mercy?

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:37 pm

paintedbird wrote:
Hardcoregirl wrote:I was gonna say Bauhaus and Siouxsie are the only gothic rock bands ever...hehehe.

What about Sisters of Mercy?

Andrew Eldritch says no, so I say no.

Since the early 90s, Eldritch has publicly rejected associations with the Goth subculture. He describes The Sisters of Mercy as humanist, modernist, and implies he wants nothing to do with Goth, stating "it's disappointing that so many people have in all seriousness adopted just one of our many one-week-of-stupid-clothes benders". He also notes that, "I'm constantly confronted by representatives of popular culture who are far more g*** than we, yet I have only to wear black socks to be stigmatised as the demon overlord"

Dead Can Dance...most certainly NOT goth. I don't think you can classify them, but if I had to try I'd put them under the very general term "world" music.

World music is defined as:

music where influences from more that one cultural tradition intermingle, first made popular in the 1980s

and

World music is a term that covers all music that is not part of mainstream popular music or classical music and has some kind of "ethnic" component. The connotation of the term is popular and folk music from the third world, European popular and folk music that uses influences from the third world, and traditional music especially but not only from the third world. ...

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:44 pm

iblis wrote:

do the band(s) provide samples online? if so, gimme links, damn it. i'm lazy tonight.

I bet you can search for about any band you can think of and find a video for their music on youtube.com...so, then you get their look and their sound for the full goffick experience.

Zeo · Post by **Zeo** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:48 pm

iblis wrote:do the band(s) provide samples online?

All three of the above mentioned are on myspace.

http://www.myspace.com/psyclonnine

http://www.myspace.com/combichrist

http://www.myspace.com/hocico

Zeo · Post by **Zeo** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 2:01 pm

Andy LaPlegua's (of Combichrist) other two projects:

http://www.myspace.com/panzerag

http://www.myspace.com/officialiconofcoil

Helltrash is an Atlanta based aggrotech band.

http://www.myspace.com/helltrash

Combichrist and Helltrash are opening up for KMFDM at Masquerade ATL on Oct. 14th.

paintedbird · Post by **paintedbird** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:04 pm

Hardcoregirl wrote:
paintedbird wrote:
Hardcoregirl wrote:I was gonna say Bauhaus and Siouxsie are the only gothic rock bands ever...hehehe.

What about Sisters of Mercy?

Andrew Eldritch says no, so I say no.

Don't Siouxsie and the guys of Bauhaus say no also?

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:26 pm

isnt it the hip thing to do to say No when someone calls you out?

rec|use · Post by **rec|use** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:01 pm

Helltrash is an Atlanta based aggrotech band.

aka

a nu-metal band with a keyboard