Discussing music (NOT reviewing! Discussing!)

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Fri May 23, 2003 4:45 pm

Labradford - Check this band out. Buy the album Mi Media Naranja - they have it at at least one Disc Exchange, I think - and just TRY to tell me it's not the perfect swampy gothy masterpiece.

Do Make Say Think - "Hey! You got jazz in my space rock! Hey! You got space rock in my jazz!"

Trans Am - "Hey! You got Rush in my Kraftwerk!"

Sixteen Horsepower - Bluegrass + rock + Biblical references + Southern despair + damn fine songs = Good.

Slowdive - One of the most pretty, shimmery, heart-tugging shoegazer bands ever. Special version of Souvlaki which has the cover of "Some Velvet Morning" is goth enough for any of you to like it (and goths should be into shoegazer anyway, because they're so similar).

Android Lust - New goth-industrial music - especially of quality - is a dying breed, but this is a great album. Imagine a female Trent Reznor, only with much more talent than he displayed on The Fragile.

A Silver Mt. Zion - Do you like apocalyptic strings and piano overlaid with creepy fragments of preachers?

NOTE: None of the above music is "obscure". It can all be readily found at Disc Exchange. There is a vast amount of good music out there in the world these days - just don't look for it in music magazines or on MTV, and don't think that MTV-bands are in ANY WAY representative of the many other kinds of music being made right now. Thank you for your time.

interf4ce · Post by **interf4ce** » Fri May 23, 2003 5:54 pm

Jack wrote:NOTE: None of the above music is "obscure". It can all be readily found at Disc Exchange. There is a vast amount of good music out there in the world these days - just don't look for it in music magazines or on MTV, and don't think that MTV-bands are in ANY WAY representative of the many other kinds of music being made right now. Thank you for your time.

hell fucking amen.

labluegirl · Post by **labluegirl** » Fri May 23, 2003 10:09 pm

Black Heart Procession: see Sixteen Horsepower, except less bluegrassy.

Pulp - particularly This is Hardcore...and why won't anyone play Common People at a dance night? it's right up there with that Blur song... i guess this isn't all that gothy, but This is Hardcore has some gothy moments, imho (ps hardcorebuttercupmorgangirl, do you own this album? because you should :wink:

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add yr own obscureish gothyish band to this thread. it'll be fun.

more when i think of more.

candicide · Post by **candicide** » Fri May 23, 2003 11:31 pm

Jack wrote:Do Make Say Think - "Hey! You got jazz in my space rock! Hey! You got space rock in my jazz!"

Trans Am - "Hey! You got Rush in my Kraftwerk!"

A Silver Mt. Zion - Do you like apocalyptic strings and piano overlaid with creepy fragments of preachers?

I love all three of these bands...I haven't heard of the rest of them, but I am so impressed with your musical tastes, that I believe they're worth checking out.

Yay for Jack playing some Elf Power tonight!!!

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat May 24, 2003 1:35 am

candicide wrote:Yay for Jack playing some Elf Power tonight!!!

I promise that next week I'll bring some Flaming Lips for ya.

Synthpopalooza · Post by **Synthpopalooza** » Sat May 24, 2003 8:29 am

Venus Hum - Big Beautiful Sky ... haven't got this one yet but I want it. Electronic band from Nashville, lush vocals by Annette Strean. You can find this at Disc Exchange for a mere $10!

Agency-X - Mission Impossible ... okay this one may be a bit happy go lucky for the goth crowd, but if you're into Erasure and Yazoo, the dance beats of this one will appeal. http://www.agency-x.net

NukleoN - Earth Rising - This is what Morrisey would sound like if he went electronic. Good dance beats, clever lyrics, and you gotta love the vocals. http://www.nukleon.com

Seven Words - Fall from Grace ... synthpop from the UK, but not your usual light fare. Paul Adams has some really deep thought-provoking lyrics covering everything from the Chernobyl disaster, to geriatric suicide, to global warming. And a really great voice too! http://www.sevenwords.co.uk

These last three, I am afraid you will have to order them online, but it's worth it!

creapyrob · Post by **creapyrob** » Sat May 24, 2003 3:27 pm

Hank WIlliams Sr. - The origional punk, hardcore to the extreme. Drank himself to death at age 27 (2 years before the other musical greats; Joblin, Hendrix, Kobain etc). Pick up his 24 greatest hits. White album, gold/yellow profile of himself. IT IS GREAT. He is greatly looked over by most artists, country or otherwise. He pioneered a lot of the rock and roll lifestyle stuff. Smashing up hotel rooms, being to drunk to play. He was removed from the Grand Ole Opery.

Hank Williams III - Sounds like his grandaddy. But is punk rock. Half is set is traditional country and the other half is punkrock. I pissed at Curb records (his label), Mike Curb is responsible for most of pop country. He is supposedly not recording another album til his contract expires in '05 cause Curb "doesn't like the cussing." But you can get bootlegs and whatnots cause he encourages recording his shows.

Most old country - Its the angst destroy myself with booze music your grandparents listen too. But there are some GREAT songs about heartbreak and despair that cross any generation. George Jones "The Grand Tour" is a great example. A dude talks about his house and all the stuff thats around and how it reminds him of his lady who just left with the baby. Johnny Paycheck's "Old Violin" is a song about a man who sees he has burned himself up being a musician. I can go ON and ON.

Just look, PM me if want more speficis.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat May 24, 2003 5:19 pm

Hell fucking Amen to Hank and Hank III.

Just a few hours ago I listened to Johnny Cash's Sunday Morning Comin' Down, which by God, is a wonderful album.

The Liberal Vampyre · Post by **The Liberal Vampyre** » Sat May 24, 2003 5:26 pm

The first time I played Labradford's Mi Media Naranja in front of my friends (it was while coming back from a KMFDM show in ATL), they all fell in love with it.

I'm a big Silver Mt. Zion Fan, too, btw.

I haven't heard Android Lust, Sixteen Horsepower, or Trans Am. I'll try to check them out.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sat May 24, 2003 5:41 pm

The Liberal Vampyre wrote:The first time I played Labradford's Mi Media Naranja in front of my friends (it was while coming back from a KMFDM show in ATL), they all fell in love with it.

I've had it since '98, and have probably never gone more than a week without listening to it at least once. I seriously believe it's one of the most perfect musical recordings of all time, and I can't imagine anyone disliking it except for young punk kids, old classic rock dudes, or young new-metal fans.

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Sat May 24, 2003 10:04 pm

two words:
more elvis.
and the new deftones is badass too cuz its my fav album to smoke to right now... dont let the band through you, that album is STRANGE.
...........quietly waiting for the next today is the day (for the 10000 time NOT savestheday, i hate emo. those are two VERY different bands) and neurosis (the only band on earth tool should take notes from)

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sun May 25, 2003 2:35 am

I have some great Elvis. The soundtrack to Seperate Ways, one of his movies, which has an amazing cover of "You Were Always On My Mind" on it.

Also a vinyl of Moody Blue, which I think is the only recording of him covering "Unchained Melody" (which was, according to his maid, the last song he sang before he died).

And, by God, the King Creole soundtrack. A great movie and great album.

jenna · Post by **jenna** » Sun May 25, 2003 2:29 pm

Here are my favorites in the don't get much in the radio play department, but you don't need to be a private investigator to find stuff by them type of range.

Neko Case...... originally did punk. Is now doing altenative country. Incredible voice that just makes me melt.

Patsy Cline.... goth before there was such a thing "I go walking after midnight" Need i say more?

Alec Verny...... Defies description. Only way i can think to describe him is cyber-punk meets Russian folk music with some gay themes.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sun May 25, 2003 3:04 pm

jenna wrote:Patsy Cline.... goth before there was such a thing

Ah yes, but what about Leadbelly? "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" is pretty damn goth. And I'm pretty sure he was around before Patsy.

I have been soured on Ms. Cline ever since my downstairs neighbor used to blast her at full volume all the time.

jenna · Post by **jenna** » Sun May 25, 2003 3:22 pm

Jack wrote:
jenna wrote:Patsy Cline.... goth before there was such a thing

Ah yes, but what about Leadbelly? "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" is pretty damn goth. And I'm pretty sure he was around before Patsy.

I have been soured on Ms. Cline ever since my downstairs neighbor used to blast her at full volume all the time.

Yup. Definately Leadbelly! He probably had more influence on the history of music than any of the others. But there are tons of blues, honky-tonk, and crooner types that are deserving of the "goth before there was such a thing" label.

But, Patsy is one of my favorites. i wonder if i was your downstairs neighbor? Been eons since i lived in an apt. , but i do have a tendancy to have her blasting on repeat after a relationship going sour. lol

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sun May 25, 2003 5:05 pm

jenna wrote:But, Patsy is one of my favorites. i wonder if i was your downstairs neighbor?

No, this guy is still there. He's a gay hairdresser.

creapyrob · Post by **creapyrob** » Mon May 26, 2003 2:24 am

jenna wrote:But, Patsy is one of my favorites. i wonder if i was your downstairs neighbor? Been eons since i lived in an apt. , but i do have a tendancy to have her blasting on repeat after a relationship going sour. lol

You do that too huh?

Here are some of the beating myself up favorites.

Found a new guy today: Cooder Graw, he's got a song called My Give a Damn is Broke. That is funny in that laughing at your ex and their fucked up life.

George Jones - He stopped Loving Her Today. A ...how goth song, check it out really. As is "The Grand Tour"

Paradise by John Prine is a longing for childhood memories in places that were destroied by the Man.

Hank Williams Jr. - Dinosaur. A song about a guy that went to a bar and felt TOTALLY out of place cause the music was disco, not country like he was used to and he feels old, like a dinosaur.

Doug Stone - Jukebox with a Country Song. Dude goes to his old bar to find that its now totally sold out.

Ronnie Milsap - Houston Solution. Lamenty song about a dude that packs up and leaves on his old lady.

Glenn Campbell - Wichata Lineman. GREAT song about a guy, a lineman, that is unrequitedly in love with his dispatcher.

Keith Whitley - Miami, My Amy. Song about a guy in love with Amy but has to go back to CA to his life, so they have a long distance relationship.

the list goes on and on.

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Mon May 26, 2003 1:47 pm

Jack wrote:
jenna wrote:Patsy Cline.... goth before there was such a thing

Ah yes, but what about Leadbelly? "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" is pretty damn goth. And I'm pretty sure he was around before Patsy.

I have been soured on Ms. Cline ever since my downstairs neighbor used to blast her at full volume all the time.

leadbelly is freakin cool. again i side with mr.jack....

karmakaze · Post by **karmakaze** » Mon May 26, 2003 2:09 pm

android lust is new?

a few of my critiques:

birthday party: fear meets primus big jesus trash can is a good song...

16 volt: a cross between toned down acid bath and manson with a little bit of massive attack

laibach: german march music gone hardcore. has some sort of wierd obsession with the rolling stones. has an entire cd of sympathy for the devil covers

angelfish: toned down garbage. because.. well.. thats what it is...

devo: one of my fav bands.. they don't get enough credit in my oppinion. have you heard their versions of (i can't get no) satisfaction or head like a hole?

diva destruction: concrette blonde if they still made music.

nocturne: pigface but better. more hardcore. if only they would cover hips tits lips power.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon May 26, 2003 2:49 pm

karmakaze wrote:android lust is new?

Well, relatively speaking. I tend to consider anything goth-industrial made after 1990 to be "new".

As for Nocturne being better than Pigface, well, it would be pretty damn hard to be worse than the latest Pigface fiasco. What the hell happened to them?

I like Snog a lot better than Pigface, but Notes From Thee Underground and Gub will always have special places in my heart.

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